Quote from: dannac on July 25, 2015, 09:32:11 AM

Quote from: BloodyRookie on July 25, 2015, 08:03:19 AM

Quote from: CECVW on July 24, 2015, 11:43:02 PM

Quote from: BloodyRookie on July 24, 2015, 01:42:44 PM

To all those who are complaining not having received a stake due to being marked as socks:

We had more then 2800 people who wanted a stake. I think everyone agrees that among those people there were many socks. So we had to act.
When deciding who will get a stake a who not, we had to find a compromise between being too lenient and too strict, the former leading to many socks getting a stake which is unfair to the ones that complied to the rules and the latter leading to many non socks getting no stake which is again unfair for obvious reasons.

But no matter how much effort our team put into the analysis, having so many cases which are unclear always results in some cases where a sock gets a stake and some cases where a non sock doesn't get a stake. Any other team would have faced the same problems. So if you didn't get your stake although you deserved one I am sorry for that, we could not avoid some misjudgements during the cleaning process. I do understand that in this case you are dissappointed/frustrated/angry. But that's life and there will never be 100% fairness anywhere. The decisions we made are final. I think the vast majority of the community will agree that we have to move on.

First of all thank you very much for your help and resolving my case so quick where other would not be able to see what was the problem, but I have to disagree with your following sentence ''So if you didn't get your stake although you deserved one I am sorry for that, we could not avoid some misjudgment during the cleaning process'' That is utterly wrong, if someone has been sent to jail by someone misjudgment we are sorry you are condemned to be in jail regardless if you are innocent. You can not avoid your responsibility and I don't want either be selfish and now that my case is resolved not to care about other people who deserved and are the right owner of their stake because of Makoto misjudgment.

Maybe you misunderstood my statement. I was not saying that we know a case where we misjudged. It was only a statistical argument. To pick up your example: in every country there are innocent people in jail because of misjudgement even if the judges did their best to avoid it. They just don't know in which cases they misjudged. That's the dilemma when you got incomplete information.

That's pretty embarrassing how you are trying to bring NEM Devs up to the level of a Country Law or so. Shocked

How do you think you are ?
You in particular, as individual, dear Bloody, you really like to upset innocent Sockpuppets with your attitude, don't you ?!?
It looks like that... and you have been doing that for a long while already.
Well, if this is the case, I would never want someone with your attitude in my Core Group. Because you are not gonna help NEM.
The result of your words is gonna be pretty much the opposite.
Being intellectually arrogant doesn't help at all. Is not sign of any smartness.
So, if I was you, I would rework my behaviours.
Silence is golden sometimes.

dannac talking like that you will never get your objetives, I think you are a genuine guy that has been misjudge ignore by Makoto, I was the same for 4 or 5 months and I know your frustration but your language and approach to the dev team is not appropriate because you will never win, I am talking only because I know you are right in getting what belong to you and BloodyRookie we can not accused whoever has 3 or 4 stakes when dev and team member has much more than that and what I felt when I was talking witth Makoto he was doing the minimum effort to give the less possible stakes so management end up with more, that's hypocrisy and mean accussing of sock puppits someone who has 3 or 4 stakes, believe some of you got that multiply by ten, lets stop this and now there are only two people claiming their right to get what it belong to them. You need to talk with dannac and Jamthirteen. To me these two guys sound very genuine. We are what we eat, We are what we do in life and I want to be a person who can help other and not because you resolve my case I should ignore what others went thru all these last 5 months, I do understand you very well dannac and Jamthirteen. For example I can see the bad action of Makoto only offering one stake to Jamthirteen when in a recent post he said you are entitle to two, so he was not acting correctly and yes dannac I do believe you have been neglected as I have suffered the same in my skin. Guys you need to lets these people to prove their cases and if they are still with their cases unresolved its when you sent an email to Makoto during investigation either he did not responded or responded a month later. You can make a mistake in justice yes it happens but Makoto has done mistakes that are not genuine, please give these two guys what belong to them