Quote from: generalizethis on August 01, 2015, 03:18:20 AM

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on July 31, 2015, 10:14:40 PM

Quote from: generalizethis on July 31, 2015, 08:17:26 AM

You're missing my point.

Trust me, you are missing the point.

Quote from: generalizethis on July 31, 2015, 08:17:26 AM

Facebook is used by a lot of users and the governments monitoring those users. I'm saying private networks won't work until there is a political/social will to move to those networks.

No, no, no. You'll never get there if you expect to teach people to prefer what they don't prefer. Never. You broke the fundamental rule of marketing.

Quote from: generalizethis on July 31, 2015, 08:17:26 AM

To put it simple: either your network has to be better: easier to use and more efficient and more profitable...

Exactly. People have to want to use it because they like it better, makes them more productive, improves their profitability, gives them ways to do things which they are currently prevented from doing, etc..

That is why I said it all about doing the code to make that a reality. Not about politics.

And yes, making it incredibly easy-to-use. Now go study again my marketing of CoolPage. Who knows ease of use? And who knows what people want?

I am talking too much.

Politics is the art of convincing people of what they really want. Why you are conflating marketing into this is beyond me. So make it better or use politics to get people to want it. But remember, that if the politically powerful want to control something, they aren't afraid, or above, using politics to get it. So since there isn't a political strategy guiding any of this, I'll leave it alone--I was initially asking if there was one and where do i find it, but that got lost in the conversation. Tongue

You could have just said "no" or "not to my knowledge."

The political strategy is to make politics (collectivized resource appropriation) less relevant so people are more in tune with what benefits them, i.e. Welcome to the Knowledge Age.

Some people refer to this transformation as an Inverse Commons:

http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/magic-cauldron/magic-cauldron-5.html

Somewhere in the following video Linus explains for example how the technology of decentralized version control eliminates the politics over whom gets commit rights:

https://youtu.be/4XpnKHJAok8?t=488 (haha)

https://youtu.be/4XpnKHJAok8?t=1114 ("most people are morons") <------ Edit: this one and the next one apply to my point

https://youtu.be/4XpnKHJAok8?t=1648 ("most of you are incompetent", "there are some few who are outstanding", "hey that person is smarter than I am")