Quote from: freeAgent on September 18, 2012, 10:56:22 PM

Quote from: franky1 on September 18, 2012, 10:24:22 PM

Quote from: freeAgent on September 18, 2012, 07:59:48 PM

I think at least the part about BF Labs being registered in Wyoming and being called a Biotech company is kind of strange. That claim was made by the BFL account, but I don't see anything online about a "Biotech Frontiers Lab" other than this conspiracy theory.

google has the answers
http://www.lookupbook.com/profile/healthcare-biotech/wy/casper/bf-labs-inc

they defaulted last year. which made me laugh. that butterfly claimed to be a bankrupt biotech company. but then later a photographer grabbed the listing.

https://wyobiz.wy.gov/Business/FilingSearch.aspx type in file number 2011-000606261

so good luck Butterfly labs seeking legitimacy using that wyoming listing

on another note, yes i have been involved in the community for a while. i do not personally own a company related anything to do with bitcoin. nor do i work for one. my intention has nothing to do with competitive behaviour. it does have to do with requesting a entity that asks for hundreds of dollars to at least back up what they publicise and gain some actual credit.

multiple declines of providing public record information is not what any company big or small would do if they were honest. especially asking for hundreds of dollars up front with promises and guarantee's not given.

why my interest. because maybe i amongst others do have money invested and so being ignored is not what id call good business practice.

atleast admit your not actually incorperated or trademarked, that your just a 'living room' industry. even that would atleast be honest and gain BFL some credibility.

lies and ignorance is not what a company selling hundreds of dollars of equipment should have as their standard business practice.

You say they defaulted last year, but the Wyoming Secretary of State website shows them having filed an annual report just about two weeks ago. It also clearly shows the only listed executive of the company as Chris Vleisides at 2507 Jefferson St. in KC, MO. He is apparently a professional photographer as you said (here's his website). I don't think it's a just a coincidence that Butterfly Labs and Chris Vleisides are both in Kansas City, Missouri.

Anyway, after doing some further digging, it turns out that there is another Mr. Vleisides who has a more interesting past. His name is "Sonny" Chris Vleisides. Sonny was apparently convicted of mail fraud relating to a ponzi scheme and is currently on probation: http://ca.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.20100915_0004129.CCA.htm/qx

https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/radDocs/PressRoom/nr110114.htm

He's still on probation for another year. Anyway, Chris Vleisides the photographer was posting photos while Sonny Chris Vleisides was imprisoned. It also appears that Sonny Chris is younger than Chris (a son or brother?). I doubt they're the same person, but it's possible that they're related. Butterfly Labs has definitely been producing legitimate hardware, so if they are a scam, it's a very long play and not a ponzi scheme. At the very least, at this point it would be nice to have some answers.

You know, I have my doubts about BFL's claimed specs, but I honestly thought that this was all just a bunch of hyperactive doxxing. BFL has scummy business practices, but I wasn't expecting anything like his to turn up. Time to pull out the air popper.