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FYI: Poloniex will no longer be offering services to residents of New York ...

If nobody saw this coming, you're incredibly naive.

Governments may praise crypto all they want, but in the end it challenges their positions of authority by undermining the fraud that is FIAT. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg for things to come:

http://www.coindesk.com/ny-bitcoin-business-45-days-bitlicense/

Can you expand on your assumptions?

I don't see how it challenges their authority, FIAT is just a way to trade value for goods/services just like crypto is trying to do.

No it's not. Fiat is a tool of the zionists/illuminati to control (economic instability, scaring people, financing both sides of wars), rob (illegal taxes) and enslave people (debts and interest - interest was invented by Jews. Interest is a form of injustice and it therefore forbidden by God -> God encourages trade and charity).

Not sure if serious or sarcastic, either way lol.

The invention of interest was by the Sumerians from Mesopotamia, modern-day Iraq, Kuwait and parts of Iran, Syria and Turkey.

That's true, but I was more talking about the modern day banking system that is owned and run by the Jews.
https://europeanmediacentre.wordpress.com/2013/09/02/list-of-banks-owned-by-the-jewish-rothschild-family/

If we're talking about Sumerian we'd better start talking about Nimrod, the very first evil person that invented paganism (after the flood) that has spread into many forms and still can be found in our society e.g the trinity concept, Christmas - it's date, the wreath, tree, santa (celebrating the birth of nimrod aka sun god) or the olympic games especially the way they lit the torch (isn't satan called lucifer the torch bearer like the Statue of Liberty/Slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_%28goddess%29)

Although i get your perspective (It's certainly something i've witnessed many a time in this sort of discussion), my point wasn't about the religious groups (potentially) involved in this FIAT monetary system, all that matters is the system itself, of which slowly siphens wealth from people through increasing inflation and taxation, leading to the economical, social and eventual political unrest we all witness even to this day.

Addressing the fundamental causes (fraudulent money) is, in my view, the main point of crypto and something NEM should be a front runner of. It shouldn't be a message that encourages hatred towards people of any faith, regardless of the conspiracies (Or, for that matter, even facts) that surround it. Targeting specific groups as the cause of this system (True or otherwise) just simply focuses things away from whats important, and in fact, just encourages hatred and division.

NEM should steer well clear from any affiliation or sympathy to any political or religious views, and strictly remain unbiased - especially as in the grand scheme of things, it's not whats important or for that matter, even relevant.