Quote from: Beliathon on August 03, 2015, 08:43:37 PM

Quote from: Holliday on August 03, 2015, 03:36:28 PM

If someone breaks into your home (aggression) and is in the process of raping your wife (aggression), the only reasonable response is to extinguish the threat (self-defense).

"Extinguish the threat" sounds a lot like a sociopath's euphemism for murder. I sure hope I'm wrong, but here you have revealed the waiting violence all capitalists hide in their hearts. So two wrongs make a right?

I wouldn't know what a sociopath's euphemism for murder is, but I'm pretty sure that the example I provided is about as far from murder as you can get while still ending a life. I don't really know what private ownership of the means of production has to do with our conversation about violence, and I find it pretty hilarious that you've tried to fit it in here. I don't visit youtube, sorry. Two wrongs do not make a right. There is nothing wrong with self-defense. As I said, as soon as someone has shown that they refuse to acknowledge the rights of others, they have no room for complaint when others ignore their rights. That's only reasonable.

Quote from: Beliathon on August 03, 2015, 08:43:37 PM

I loathe violence but I wouldn't hesitate to use it to protect myself or my loved ones.

Violence is simply the result of using extreme force. It's kind of concerning that you have such strong feelings about it. Do you loathe how a chainsaw rips apart a tree or how an internal combustion engine produces power because both are extremely violent.

Quote from: Beliathon on August 03, 2015, 08:43:37 PM

But when the revolution comes I'll do everything in my power to prevent the senseless massacre of the elite capitalists I hate so much.

I'm laughing my ass off at you for bringing capitalism into this conversation a second time. Also, why so much hate? Which elite capitalists were you talking about, by the way. I hope you aren't talking about the US, because I don't think there are any functioning capitalists there (it's almost impossible to actually own anything in the US).