Why suffer trying to 'convince' people, when you could plant ideas that take on a life of their own?
I am only convincing those people who matter, because as Linus Torvalds explained well, "most people are morons" and thus they can never understand.
popcorn1 is apparently a prime example because he can't seem to comprehend that rewarding
habitual, willful failure is a human eugenics (potentially extinction) paradigm, due to the resiliency that is only attainable with Taleb's Anti-fragility, i.e. not overcommitting to egregious error which all collectives/politics inherently do.
And actually I am not trying to convince in this thread. I am just gathering a poll and feedback on how many people rationalize similarly to myself. Also to brainstorm potential solutions and dismiss non-solutions and impractical ideas.
It is also serves to be an "in your face" middle finger to socialist pigs. I get a kick out of that, but I wouldn't start a thread just to annoy socialists. I need to have some real work achievement goal in mind. This thread is gathering data. Everyone who contributes to the thread is appreciated (popcorn1 included), despite diametrical philosophical and political views expressed.
Again increases in degrees-of-freedom doesn't have to be selfish even if it is physical. For example, if remove that obstacle that makes us all walk further than we need to.
You don't need to change the will of all the people, just the people who matter economically.
I figure those people who don't want to prioritize working with me already fail that test., lol

No the real problem is providing a way for the people who want to productive to separate themselves from those who want to perish.
Convincing people to change
is a waste of time.
Individual responsibility is only motivated by not providing a nanny state.