Quote from: sgbett on August 04, 2015, 08:43:01 PM

Quote from: brg444 on August 04, 2015, 06:26:55 PM

I'm guessing you don't quite understand the nuances behind the idea icebreaker is trying to lead you to.. or maybe you outright disagree. Here is Peter Wuille's version of the same logic:

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I see centralization and scalability as a trade-off, and for better or for worse, the block chain only offers one trade-off. I want to see technology
built on top that introduces lower levels of trust than typical fully centralized systems, while offering increased convenience, speed, reliability, and scale. I just don't think that all of that can happen on the lowest layer without hurting everything built on top. We need different trade-offs, and the blockchain is just one, but a very fundamental one.

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/009908.html

You guess wrong. I understand the potential benefits of those technologies. Ice has made it clear that he wants to force adoption of those technologies by meddling with bitcoin.

I've already said what I think of that...

Quote from: sgbett on July 31, 2015, 08:46:15 AM

I think block size increase should be done in good time to stop all of this forced LN/sidechain/alt-coin nonsense you are pimping. If those things are good, and wanted then they will stand on there own merit. Whereas you think we should do it later, after rome is burning.

Well that's helpful. I like how you frame me as (capable of) imposing some kind of coercion on all of mankind, to "force" adoption of Layer 2+ (SC/LN) and Layer A+ (altcoins/SC/LN). Also admirable is your hilarious exaggeration of full blocks as "Rome burning." Cheesy

Now we know you subscribe to the surreal Red Queen Interpretation, whereby in doing nothing we are accused of "meddling."

Now we know you simply refuse to accept the fact there exists a trade-off between Layer 1 scalability and decentralization.

Now we know you want to pile every proof-of-work quorum system in the world into one dataset, because you think Layer 1 can be made to scale without limit simply by increasing the max_blocksize.

Please show the class the work which justifies your conclusion. I assume you have some breathtakingly original research which will surprise us all by refuting Mr. Wuille, Dr. Backamoto, and Professor Szaboshi.

Just kidding! We all know you can't do that. But it's fun to tease you, because the "LN/sidechain/alt-coin nonsense" you are so butthurt about is not going away, and grows more powerful with each new commit:

Code:

https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning
https://github.com/ElementsProject/elements
https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero

^That is bleeding edge computer science. Your FUD and concern trolling is not. Kiss