Quote from: RealMalatesta on July 28, 2015, 09:56:36 AM

Quote from: AizenSou on July 28, 2015, 09:23:31 AM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on July 27, 2015, 09:54:52 PM

Well, I'm really wondering how naive some people can be.
Everybody is just sitting here, crying about their losses and not doing anything about it?
Why not contact P4ndoraBox7 who was claiming to have been in communication with "Adrian" while everybody else was complaining that "Adrian" and/or cloudminr.io didn't respond?`And why was Martial, err, P4ndoraBox7, just selling his hash before cloudminr.io closed down? He can be found easily and I think he's got something to explain....

What about the Russian crackhead "galdur" who seems a pro in defending scammers?

Just read through the whole thread and look at who's promoting the scam... then check what else they have promoted in the past... enlightening...

I must agree with your analysis. But look at this thread? Just count how many people who don't care about anyone's shit? They are just enjoying their refs money too. They don't give a shit that their referrals lost money. They came to defend every ponzi when it was still hot, then silent when it went down. Look at twitter, how many tweets are there to promote the refs ? Facebook too. Look overall, all people with the dollar sign in their eyes, all about greed. Well it's a sad state of current crypto

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The last-minute-sale from P4ndoraBox7 was indeed suspicious. And: He sold much more than just this before this. I was wondering that he's making so much money as a Wal-Mart employee to buy so many TH with cloudminr..... while he was saying that he's a noob. He even set up a homepage (http://www.cryptohashcenter.com) and in the whois-data, you can clearly see his real name and contact. If I'd lost money with this scam, I definitively would ask him about his communication with "Adrian"....

Despite all the greed of people, they should never forget that there are jurisdictions in this world in which the promotion of a Ponzi makes you part of the Ponzi, i.e. you can be convicted as part of the fraudster's network. Again: If I would have lost anything in this scam, I'd go after everybody who was promoting the scam with a signature campaign...

Agree. A promoter of a manifest fraud becomes the agent of fraud, but there is no legal basis to punish him for that as long as you can not prove anything.
Everyone (adult) should know the risk of HYIPs. Everyone has the possibility to inform himself before investing and HOW to invest, to reach a ROI. Everyone should read my e-book "How to scam a scammer" in german "Der ethisch-technische Kunstgriff des kategorischen Imperativs: Wie man Betrüger betrügt" *joking*. (No, I don't sell this book, because to much winners would kill my bussiness Grin

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Seriously: I can not imagine how to lose money with HYIPs, because all you need to know are some simple splitting-rules of investment. You could explain this rules to a child and I bet that child will double it's pocket money ... to consume more ice and toys in some weeks or months, as long kids can wait as long. Wink

But I can understand the problem: Someone (or everyone?) dream of the big, quick and easy money. Of course HYIPs offer a much better chance than lottery but it's nomen est omen High Yield with high risks.
As long you don't invest more than you can afford, it's an exciting game only. As long you get a good ROI overall, it's a funny game. As long you don't cry about some lost bugs, it's a nice pastime.
All in all I can promise you: HYIPs are better than bank interests. I got as much interests in the last 365 days as my bank-account would offer me for the next 50 years. So what's the problem with so called scams, shemes and ponzis? IMHO it's the greed of investors who did not unterstand the rules of HOW and WHEN to invest. I.e. what is a "fresh" HYIP? One week or two weeks old? No, that's already "old", because of first-in->first-out. Two or three days after start is even fresh enough to have a chance of a good ROI, because later investors pay your winnings. What's not to understand? I don't know ...

(Please excuse my bad english - I'm not a native speaker.)