Quote from: TPTB_need_war on August 13, 2015, 03:26:21 PM

Quote from: oaxaca on August 13, 2015, 02:53:11 PM

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on August 13, 2015, 02:43:12 PM

Quote from: oaxaca on August 13, 2015, 02:35:46 PM

Then stop with your "they are wrong" stuff.

sheesh.

Who is wrong?

Masternodes are not autonomous anonymity. I have no comment about other bells and whistles implemented with masternodes. Haven't studied those new features.

blobafett2 claims (quite rightly) that masternodes are simply incentivized full nodes that provide extra functionality. One of these functions is mixing. Nowhere did he say that masternodes ARE autonomous anonymity.

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on August 13, 2015, 02:15:23 PM

Quote from: blobafett2 on August 13, 2015, 01:10:48 PM

I (unsurprisingly) disagree about masternodes - segmenting the Bitcoin network topology into multi-tiers that can be incetivized and used to build apps & services on top (integrated mixing being the first service, instant transactions another, blockchain funded development / governance being the next) - fixes a major gap / missed opportunity in Bitcoin's architecture and, coupled with my confidence in the professionalism & ethics of the dev team and their consistent delivery performance, is the reason I invest in Dash - just to state that, and just my opinion.

I have not looked at that feature.

It will be very counter productive to try to convince Dash supporters who believe in such features that they are wrong.

But I never said they are wrong. So why did you tell me to stop with "they are wrong"?

P.S. Masternodes have a complex description and I am not sure any of us entirely understand them. Last time I checked they were things you could buy. That changes the economics. They are not nodes paid with proof-of-work shares. I don't even have time to go analyze such an adhoc design (with copious tweaks to their meaning and functionality along the way I assume) and try to characterize what they really are formally.

In computer science we understand adhoc design = no design or flying blind.

I don't think it's an ad hoc design, as I understand it, it's just taking an existing p2p topology and classifying a section of the nodes to be able to preform higher functions / form their own mesh internally and then incentivize them and a quorum system for tie it together, and then building various applications/services on top of that. Most P2P networks have multi-tiers, e.g. Skype promotes end-nodes to super-nodes to route more traffic if you have a good connection... in P2P network design, Bitcoin is notable for *not* having multi-tiers. That's why I say it's a missing feature from Bitcoin which just has a single tier of fullnodes essentially, maybe Satoshi would have implemented it too if he was still around, it's not rocket science. (but I guess a lot of people never looked into it because Dash thread is 80% FUD, maybe the FUDsters 'get it'?) Cheesy