Quote from: jabo38 on August 19, 2015, 07:10:43 AM

Quote from: Irontiga on August 18, 2015, 10:20:41 PM

Quote from: stoat on August 18, 2015, 01:50:12 PM

That article seems to be big on press releases and very light on detail. I think the network effect of Ethereum and the Ethereum DAPP ecosystem will render BTC and current Altcoins redundant.

You don't NEED SIDECHAINS in Ethereum so that counterparty press release appears to be complete bollocks.

BURST and QORA both have turing complete at's, capable of doing ANYTHING which eth can do.

You really need to go and dyor....

Please help me out here, but I am under the impression last i checked (it has been some time) that both Qora and Burst have set up Ciyam's AT found here. http://ciyam.org/at/ I have also talked to Ciyam about this at the time I talked to him and he said the only thing that had really been made use of was a couple of cross chain transactions, of which were actually a bit of a complicated dance, yet still it was accomplished and was the first time in crypto (first times aren't often all that polished, so that is understandable). But that is a far cry from completely turing complete "ANYTHING". In fact if you look at CIYAM's documentation that I linked above he has actually only made 5 transaction types. Those being atomic cross chain transfers, auction, crowd funding, dormant funds transfer, and lottery.

Can anybody please send a link to more information about how Qora/Burst have gone to these 5 to anything?

It would also be nice to read more about the specific examples of turing complete transactions on these platforms if somebody has a link for those.

CIYAM's at's take a different approach to ethereum's. Ethereum went the route of a virtual machine, and CIYAM the route of virtual cpu....or maybe the other way round. Not 100% sure right now.

Here(http://ciyam.org/at/at.html) you can see

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Automated Transactions Specification
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In brief an Automated Transaction is a "Turing complete" set of byte code instructions which will be executed
by a byte code interpreter built into its host. An AT supporting host platform automatically supports various
applications ranging from games of chance to automated crowdfunding and ensuring that "long term savings" are
not lost forever.

His AT's obviously meet his specifications ;P