Quote from: username18333 on August 19, 2015, 08:09:33 PM

Quote from: tabnloz on August 19, 2015, 08:04:00 PM

And, after Citizen Four, No Place To Hide and WikiLeaks / Sarah Harrison involvement, I am convinced that Snowden is legit and heroic. It would seem to be plenty harder to do things the way he did than a preplanned conspiracy. The repercussions from his exposures are global and have changed the world: reflecting poorly on US, negatively affected US companies, led to scrutiny of all governments and countries. As for the NSA / Tor link, it is over 2 years post Snowden, creeping up on 3 if you think about the preparation that would have been involved, so there is a possibility that either a) he didn't have access to that info, b) info is still to be released or c) the program was still in germination phase. But all in all for me, despite the capabilities of TPTB to control the narrative, this is one case I think he is a true whistleblower.

Quote from: Marlow Stern, "John Oliver Makes Edward Snowden Squirm on Last Week Tonight," The Daily Beast, 2015

In order to get people to understand the gravity of the situation, Oliver feels they should frame it differently: d*ck pics. Alluding to the fact that Americans seemed far more outraged over The Fappeningthe celebrity nude photo hacking spree that exposed a laundry list of A-list actresses last yearthan the Snowden revelations, Oliver felt that an easier way to communicate the issue to Americans is as follows: The government is accessing your private d*ck pics.

haha yes very true. and the assumed legal & criminal complexity on top of the patriotic narrative does keep the outrage at arms length..... (no revolution) but globally the revelations haven't cycled out of the news since and has resulted in loss of business for US companies (see moves by Brazil, China)