Quote from: lucky1974 on August 20, 2015, 06:30:49 PM

We anticipate that before we release our full-custom 16 nanometer chip, the BM1385 will continue to be the industry standard for the bitcoin mining industry, said Bitmain co-founder Wu Jihan. We will continue to strive for more efficiency and lower costs for our customers.

and the S7 IS NOT THE 16nm full customized chip so I am still going to wait.

16nm is bling bling expensive. And, why kick themselves in the nuts by going to fast forward - they still do well with 28nm.

Quote from: Chris_Sabian on August 20, 2015, 04:42:17 PM

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Quote from: jmelnick on August 20, 2015, 04:05:47 PM

considering BitFury already has FULL CUSTOM at 28 nm at 0.2 and ALREADY taped out at 0.05 with TSMC - I wish BITMAIN lots of luck. I also wish BITMAIN customers stength and hope they will ever see the return on investment.

Which we havent seen actual proof of have we? - and, if they do, its not going to be commonly available to the mortals

If Bitmain wasn't going to sell miners to 'home' users, then why even make the announcement? I'm sure that Bitmain already has several large 'professional' accounts that would really like to buy the newest chips.

Sure they do, but i'd be willing to bet they havent taped out on 16nm yet. So sure, these chips are possibly already in large scale production - or very very close - but they need to bring the little people in aswell, thats where they make the most profit per sold miner - hense fund their future R&D