Quote from: Siexpert on August 24, 2015, 06:30:11 PM

Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on August 24, 2015, 06:01:47 PM

I am becoming more and more convinced bitcoin will not make any new ATH.
I think the bear market is too rough and it certainly discourages any new investors to adapt it.
It is just a matter of months when BTC is trading around 100 usd (in my opinion - I might be wrong also - but certainly at least it has some probability to occur).
There is very little to no incentive for anyone buying bitcoins. There is pretty much nothing in sight that could potentially increase the demand for bitcoins.

That's our chance. It is important the community start measuring moneros in fiat terms, not in bitcoin terms (otherwise Monero will die together with bitcoin).

Why do you think that if bitcoin dies in this stage, Monero would have any chance to survive? Of course there is a thing like the second-mover advantage, and Monero is superior to Bitcoin in many aspects, but I don't think that would be enough.

I might not have said it clear enough. I said, if we measure Monero in bitcoins it will die also with bitcoin.
When bitcoin hits 5 usd/btc, it means Monero is trading between 0.01-0.02 usd/each.
If we start measuring and thinking Moneros in terms of fiat, I doubt those prices will not realize as people are willing to buy Moneros even for 1 btc each in this scenario.