Quote from: skang on August 28, 2015, 03:37:43 PM

Firstly, you need to calm down Danny.

Ok. But only because you told me to.

Quote from: skang on August 28, 2015, 03:37:43 PM

We are just discussing a protocol

Correct.

Quote from: skang on August 28, 2015, 03:37:43 PM

ad hominems only drive away respect.

I suppose you're right, but there is a lot of bad information being given by people that act like they are knowledgeable and act like they are sharing "facts". This just leads to more users misunderstanding things and propagating bad information.

Quote from: skang on August 28, 2015, 03:37:43 PM

Secondly, I do understand the technical details

Glad to hear it. So you're aware that there are no deadlocks or semaphores, and that coordination between the chains is not possible then, right?

Quote from: skang on August 28, 2015, 03:37:43 PM

(perhaps better than you),

Then I look forward to learning from you. I'm always interested in gaining knowledge from those that know more than me.

Quote from: skang on August 28, 2015, 03:37:43 PM

so either you misunderstood me or I did you.

Perhaps.

Quote from: skang on August 28, 2015, 03:37:43 PM

When I say old bitcoins won't work, I mean they stay entangled and work on both chains which is clearly the problem OP describes.

So, they'll still work, but if the output is spent on either chain, it is possible that it will also move on the other chain.

Quote from: skang on August 28, 2015, 03:37:43 PM

You gave a protocol for disentanglement, didn't you? I am saying if we don't use it we stay entangled.

There are a variety of ways to separate the outputs on the two chains. I described a method, as did a few other people. Yes, if the outputs are not disentangled, then you are right they will still be entangled.

Quote from: skang on August 28, 2015, 03:37:43 PM

In the second point, I did not say you double spent the coins

I think you said:

Quote from: skang on August 28, 2015, 02:42:58 PM

2. What if I double spend?

Quote from: skang on August 28, 2015, 03:37:43 PM

I said what if I use your protocol to send my pre-fork old coins to both the chains?

Then one of four things might happen, and you'll need to wait for confirmations to find out which it is:

The transaction that you send to CORE confirms on both chains. The outputs are still "entangled"
The transaction that you send to XT confirms on both chains. The outputs are still "entangled"
The transaction that you intend to confirm on the XT chain confirms ONLY on the chain where you intended. The outputs are "disentangeld" the way you wanted
The transaction that you intend to confirm on the XT chain confirms ONLY on the CORE chain. The outputs are "disentangeld", but not necessarily the way you intended