Quote from: ndnhc on September 06, 2015, 04:37:03 AM

Quote from: Tomatocage on September 06, 2015, 12:42:46 AM

I don't see how escrowing for himself would be a scam, unless he's tacking on an extra escrow fee and making the other party pay it. Even then there would be much more effective ways to scam such as, well, simply walking away with the entire escrow amount. From the outside it might seem a little shady, but you have to consider the fact that he's a highly trusted member and very effective scam-buster. As such it's only natural that he would make a lot of enemies from people whose intentions may not be totally above-board to begin with. So if, for instance, QS saw a deal for widgets in the Marketplace section that he couldn't pass up, but he knew that ordering widgets would potentially expose him to the sort of people previously referred to, it's only logical that he might use an alt to abstract himself.

tspacepilot, I like you, man. I think you bring to the forum a certain level of quality and content that most users sorely lack. Furthermore, I do not think QS's rating for you is totally necessary. However, I feel that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, so to speak. As I've said before, I'd rather have a few people butthurt than 10 times as many scammed.

So basically I'd file this accusation in the "big flippin deal" bucket.

Using himself an escrow totally beats the purpose of using an escrow. It is not like he is the only escrow in the entire forum. Tongue

If I am dealing with Quickseller, I would use escrow. Now he suggest someone who is himself, which I didn't know then, and the deal goes through, I would feel myself cheated. It is not considered to be okay.

He can use make deals with people, use himself as escrow. completely okay?.. till the day he decides to scam everyone and leave the forum?
Quickseller's own arguments say that past performance of anyone is no guarantee to what anyone will do in the future.

Escrowing to himself is no escrow at all. If the other party wanted an escrow, and he uses himself, that would be kind of a breach of trust.

All this is, ignoring that he got a fee and a trust feedback for this, which makes things even more worse.

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As I've said before, I'd rather have a few people butthurt than 10 times as many scammed.

It is very well the other way round.
I would like to suggest this:

Any party whose reputation is damaged by Quickseller resulting in a loss of any kind or that costed the party a significant amount of time and eventually this particular party is proved reasonably innocent of the accusation, he/she should be compensated by QS for any loss he/she has suffered including opportunity cost. (i.e. the party should be able to claim a reasonably amount of damages from Quickseller)

lol...

Compensated for what losses exactly? Getting a negative rating is not the end of the world, and does not cause someone to lose money from it. I will trade with anyone regardless of rep if they use escrow.