Quote from: dogie on September 07, 2015, 08:56:03 AM

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Quote from: dogie on September 03, 2015, 05:11:26 AM

Bit of a weird thread to bump, but I'll believe it when I see it. The last 3 chips have never been independently verified or even seen outside of a super farm.

Considering they make up nearly 1/3rd of the network alone .... thats evidence enough.

Of power claims? Its only evidence that they have money, and $60M buys you a lot of miners and a lot of PR.

Dogie, shame on you

Bitmain pays you also for PR

I remember times when Bitmain and Spondoolies were competitors on B2C market and Dogie pushed tons of shit on Spondoolies, Guy Corem answered Dogie.. and there was again and again.. What was it? PR
Regarding "buys a lot of miners" - do you have some inside? Did BitFury bought their miners? Whom? Bitmain?? It would be a sensasion Grin

I haven't been contracted by Bitmain since May, so no they do not "pay me for PR". I've also generally been a supporter of Bitfury, who had the top spot and a near perfect score in my guide for a long long time. Guy claimed that the rating criteria specifically targeted them when it just didn't as it was applied on BFL first, and they still had 88/100 score. The rating criteria are designed to protect buyers, and their claims that they'd be able to finance the next generation without preorders or investment did indeed turn out to be false.

Back on topic, all I said about Bitfury is that no one has actually ever tested their miners who is able to speak about it, and so its hard to really take their repeated claims seriously. If you think I'm paid for PR, why don't you talk to Bitfury's actual PR company or their Head of Global PR.

Dogie, each huge company has PR manager. Would you said Bitmain doesn't have?
Your rating, as I wrote earlier, is rather candid - I don't have any remarks.
You are good at communication, indeed

Your arguments are convincing, but they are about other things. Last your post: "all I said about Bitfury is that no one has actually ever tested their miners who is able to speak about it" - and you are right. But one post before you had written absolutely another thing: "Its only evidence that they have money, and $60M buys you a lot of miners and a lot of PR".
Each company have some reputation and you can't check yourself each detail. You may just believe or not. Sometimes companies with PR and money don't have good reputation, because there are some more important things in this world.