Quote from: suchmoon on September 08, 2015, 01:41:18 AM

Quote from: dyask on September 08, 2015, 12:46:36 AM

1) I'm not shilling and you are not trying to be objective.
2) We are both in the same boat when it comes to proof. You don't have any proof that there isn't any mining going on. We do agree it is fractional at best.
3) Whatever ... risk is risk. I don't see much of a difference.
4) The point was you twisted a normal order book into something that it isn't. Then people that can't think for themselves blindly repeated your 6 THs claim without have a clue what they are talking about.

Let me say this clearly. All cloud mining is extremely risky for various reasons. There is always the scam potential, patch that there are exchange risks, risks related to site management, etc.

With scrypt.cc there have been a lot of problems over the last few months. Coupled with the likely hood of fractional mining, that make it extremely risky.

Proof of mining is on scrypt.cc and it's extremely simple to do. If they can't prove it - they're not mining. It's impossible to prove the absence of something and this certainly should not be the task for scrypt.cc customers.

I'm not going to discuss risk management with you anymore, I think I don't care if you suck at it. If you think all risk is the same - good luck. Let us know how that lawsuit goes, perhaps in that thread you're going to create about bad people who promoted LTCGear.

Fractional mining would only be applicable if they had proof of SOME mining, possibly not sufficient to cover all hashrate they sold. That's "fractional". What we have here is no proof at all.

And what do you mean by this:

Quote from: dyask on September 07, 2015, 03:09:44 PM

Scrypt.cc Admin has clearly stated many times that he will no longer provide any proof of mining. So there is only indirect evidence.

No longer? Has he EVER provided any proof? Please post it here.

The GPU mining that existed last year is no longer in existence. There was great deal of discussion about before, however the proof as generally along the lines as he would tell people what coins were being mined in chat. It was possible to follow the hashing at the time. There were times when hashing was pointed at a pool of choice to verify existence. That was all done live and I'm not going to waste time digging out information that is no longer valid.

With ASICs you can't prove or disprove the existence of mining. We can only prove that is likely a lot less than 850 GHs.

Funny ... you never got the concept of risk management. That is partly why I have BTC spread out so much. However, some places I'm getting tried of, for example BTCjam. It just takes too much effort. With scrypt.cc the odds are I'm going to end up getting burned some, however it is less of a burn than something like LTCgear. Wink

EDIT: I could lose every BTC I have and it would have no impact on my life other than my pride. That is healthy risk management. Wink