Quote from: popcorn1 on September 07, 2015, 12:28:07 AM

Quote from: the joint on September 06, 2015, 08:00:46 PM

Quote from: Denker on September 05, 2015, 01:56:53 PM

I'm an Atheist. I don't hate religions. I just believe in science that's all. But what I realized is that many wars, conflicts happened and still happen because of different religions. This is silly!!
I have friends who are jews, christians (catholic, evangelic orthodox), moslems. None of them asked me why I'm not religious. But from time to time they're arguing with each other and I'm just sitting there and shaking my head.

Science works, but 'how' and 'why' does it work? Unfortunately, science will forever lack the means to answer these questions as the scientific method lacks the ability to explore and comment about real-but-abstract phenomena, e.g. mathematical principles governing physics in general, or the act of perception from which scientific knowledge can be inferred. Because science cannot explore anything universal enough whose properties distribute to everything, it will never be a source of complete understanding, let alone a complete theory of knowledge in general.

WHAT

most of your life revolves around science..you would not be typing on this thread if not for science..
tell me 1 invention that has come out of the bible or any religious books..
the good thing about science is we always learn more and more useful information that can make our lives better..
So how will it make our lives better by reading the bible ..what will we discover that will benefit mankind..
i mean you get religious freaks saying science is the devil Undecided

and that same person uses all the implements made by science this is how dumb you religious freaks are Cheesy

OK lets say we had no science would your life be better or worse.. I will tell you no running hot baths
no phone no telly no cars i could go on for ages what science as invented..

OK lets say we never had religion would your life be better or worse.. my life would be better or no worse because the bible serves no purpose but tells you how to be a better person ..which you should already know because you have feelings and emotions Grin

So before you call out SCIENCE..think of all the everyday stuff you use that was invented because of science..DUMBASS RELIGIOUS FREAKS..

SCIENCE IS THE DEVIL Cheesy

THEN YOU DUMB ASSES GO MAKE A CALL ON YOUR PHONE OR USE THE INTERNET AND SWITCH THE TELLY ON Cheesy

THICK STUPID DUMB ASSES Grin

Empiricism, the epistemological foundation for science, is the theory that knowledge is only derived from empirical/physical phenomena. However, empiricism carries non-empirical assumptions, e.g. observation has no causal effect on physical reality.

The problem with an empirical methodology wielding non-empirical assumptions is that this means the assumptions are derived elsewhere. In this case, that "elsewhere" is philosophical. But, if we assume this non-empirical assumption to be valid, then we concede that knowledge must also derive from outside empiricism, i.e. outside science.

Yes, science works, and yes it produces technology that improves convenience and quality of life. That, however, does not mean it is the best source of knowledge in all cases, and we know this especially because science doesn't work without its philosophical and mathematical underpinnings.