Quote from: suchmoon on September 08, 2015, 12:30:22 AM

Quote from: dyask on September 07, 2015, 10:17:24 PM

1) Yelling at people almost every page is a classic trolling technique. You used to be much more mature, what happened to you?
2) I'm not painting anything legitimate. I pointed out repeatedly that I believe fractional mining is going-on. I didn't use that term here because I felt most people wouldn't understand it. (Selling 500 GHs and for real mining of ~100GHs is fractional mining)
3) All crypto-mining is a form of gambling. I'm not sure how a dice game promotes the bitcoin economy, that seems to be a pretty lame point. This could be large discussion itself. But every form of mining is placing bets on what is going to happen. Odds and stakes vary.
4) (Cross-over point) You need to get a clue about order books. Look at Hashnest they have tons of buy orders on the books like that. Does that mean they are engaged in fractional mining?

The current situation at scrypt.cc is toxic. I'm not recommending it or promoting that people go there. Trying to figure out what is really going on isn't doing that. I do have BTC tied up there that I would like to recover. I'm far from the only person in that boat.

For the record, I have far, far more tied up in LTCgear, which many of you really promoted in the past. For that I've joined a lawsuit to try and recover some.

1) I'm not yelling at anyone in particular although I can see how the big red letters might hurt the feelings of someone shilling for the scam. That's pretty much the point.
2) You have absolutely no proof of ANY MINING going on. Saying that a straight-up ponzi is doing "fractional mining" or "cloud mining" is an attempt to portray it as legitimate or semi-legitimate, not to mention trying to say that withdrawals work in the face of multiple complaints to the contrary etc.
3) Again you're trying to mush this scam together with "mining". A cloud mining business that passes MINING risks on to the customer is one thing. A ponzi that doesn't even mine, steals customers' funds/hashrate, manipulates its own "market", etc is fraud. If you don't believe that real, provably fair gambling sites provide positive support Bitcoin - that's fine. I just thought that you could support the kind of gambling that has rules.
4) Not sure what you're trying to say. Is that about that screenshot? That has nothing to do with "fractional mining".

Nice diversion to LTCGear. Again trying to make it sound like I promoted it? As far as I remember you brought that up on GH and couldn't substantiate it. Post specific user IDs and links to their shilling re LTCGear if you want to make that point. Do that in a separate thread though, maybe in Scam Accusations, as this is moving far off topic.

You know I thought ThePhwner jumped the gun with that neg but seeing how you're twisting the reality I'm not so sure anymore.

1) I'm not shilling and you are not trying to be objective.
2) We are both in the same boat when it comes to proof. You don't have any proof that there isn't any mining going on. We do agree it is fractional at best.
3) Whatever ... risk is risk. I don't see much of a difference.
4) The point was you twisted a normal order book into something that it isn't. Then people that can't think for themselves blindly repeated your 6 THs claim without have a clue what they are talking about.

Let me say this clearly. All cloud mining is extremely risky for various reasons. There is always the scam potential, patch that there are exchange risks, risks related to site management, etc.

With scrypt.cc there have been a lot of problems over the last few months. Coupled with the likely hood of fractional mining, that make it extremely risky.