Quote from: onemorexmr on September 08, 2015, 06:23:59 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 06:19:49 AM

Quote from: Tomatocage on September 08, 2015, 06:01:20 AM

Quote from: onemorexmr on September 08, 2015, 05:32:55 AM

Quote from: Tomatocage on September 08, 2015, 05:29:13 AM

And I actually find it kind of funny how so many people think I'm QuickSeller. And now QuickSeller himself thinks I'm OgNasty. I mean how cool would that be to have two accounts in DefaultTrust?

you mean like Wardrick claims to have and QS had at some point?
in my book you arent QS. but have you changed your mind regarding "its not a scam to escrow own trades"? i'd really like to put you back on my trust list... but with this just statement i just...cant...

Other than "OldScammerTag", there's only like a dozen or so guys in DefaultTrust, which is what I was referring to. I don't think QS ever claimed to have any accounts in that tier. And I still stand by my original assertion that it's not a scam per se to escrow your own trades, though let's call it what it really is: A deal in which you're sending first. However, tacking on additional escrow fees and making the counter party pay it is what tips the scales toward the shady side of things.

Where he is the thing, if someone is selling a widget and they want to have $100 in their pocket after all costs to them then there is no difference to the seller if I were to say that I would offer $101 for the widget and the seller pay any escrow fee, or if I were to say that I offer $100 and I pay any escrow fees (assuming in both cases that the escrow fee is $1). In both scenarios, the seller ends up with $100 in their pocket (both scenarios also ignore shipping costs).

However with that being said, in my experience, there is a greater chance that the person is not paying the escrow fee will send a tip my direction when acting as escrow. Therefore, if I were to use the scenario in which I cover the escrow fee (I offer $100 but I cover the escrow fee), then the seller may feel additionally compelled to tip me verses if the seller was paying the escrow fee - this would especially be the case if I were to release escrow while I would be able to quickly access my escrow wallet, so the seller not paying the fee + quick/good service = the seller being further pressured to send a tip, even if one is not solicited.

This is why I say that when escrowing your own trade that having the other party pay the escrow fee is going to be the most transparent way to handle business because they will know exactly how much money they are due, and will be minimally pressured to leave any kind of tip.

the difference is when it comes to a dispute.
have you ever been in a fight or misunderstanding? only a third party can be free of emotions and decide fairly

When escrowing my own deals? No.
Also, I know if I have sent/received whatever is being traded, and am going to act honestly (as I am being trusted to be as much) so if the other person is 100% above board then there will be no issues, and if they are trying to scam me then I will 100% know for sure.