Quote from: wozzek23 on September 08, 2015, 08:38:48 AM

Quote from: Otoh on September 08, 2015, 08:25:24 AM

Quote from: wozzek23 on September 08, 2015, 05:44:34 AM

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Hmm... so yet again one investor singularly influences the price and causing many to lose? (some can't withstand the loss, some need cash for private emergencies, some dislike manipulation...)
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Do not put funds that you may need for emergencies into such a high risk vehicle as crypto Shocked

buying and selling is not manipulation, it is normal market operating Roll Eyes

the market decides the price, I am a part of the market but only a small part of the whole Wink

Come on, Richard - I am sure that you are fully aware how much respected member of a community you are (part of the respect comes, I'd guess out of awe that one single investor can have so much money invested into such a high risk vehicle) but if you, as a "small part of the market" can drive the price down - at will, since it was you who put a $2.00 "wall" and it was you who had cleared all small orders in between 0.01 and 0.009 and by doing what you're doing you're directly influencing the price, than that is a manipulation indeed.

In the fiat world where my investments are doing fine, we all hate "manipulations," high frequency trading that drives the price etc., so I wonder, why would I be tolerant toward bot operators on Cryptsy or even toward you when you could, as Tante said (not naming you) just few posts above, drive the price down to 0.001 at your will?

Your transparency and support for Darkcoin as it started are, needless to say, commendable, but if you are a market maker, what is the benefits, for the community, for the price's health? (all that nonsense that the price does not matter is just that, nonsense - many a stock destroyed a sound company when it was attacked by short sellers)

Like there's no "market" in the "real world" where all is fucking manipulated by the Fed, by the likes of GS and hedge funds HFT scum, there's no market in DASH where you totally dominate.

Do not get me wrong - I have nothing against what you do, this is how it is and I can either enter back now (I sold of of my DASH when I started to look at it not as a cheer-leader but as a prudent investor expecting a price drop) at sub 0.01 or wait or leave this game entirely and I am truly grateful to you for your transparency for it gives me more data to mull over pulling the trigger or not, but do not hide behind the "market" if you, to a great extend, sometimes and perhaps well too often for my taste, create the said market Wink

Having said that, my hat off to you, noble Sire.

Every single bid and ask influences the price, yes I make larger ones sometimes but to call that manipulation is really just your arbitrary judgement of what others are doing which is identical to you just on a larger scale, anyway it's how it is, glad that you enjoy the transparency at least.