Quote from: seVell on September 08, 2015, 10:20:27 AM

Quote from: tomotan on September 08, 2015, 08:19:55 AM

p.s. it´s like the polish prepaid cards with own IBAN ( bank account ) but much much safer......no blocking and loosing money.....

The polish cards were good until they started to be mass blocked.

Full anonymity must be very difficult but I wouldn't even ask that much. Minimal verification would be fine.

I believe you live in Germany. Depending on the region it can be close to Poland. Have you tried to go to Poland and unlock any card?

I believe polish people don't like germans very much but with the card in hand I don't see how they can keep holding your money.

Some alternatives I've been searching in the forum:

Do you know this card from Austria?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1124385.msg11978207#msg11978207

I like this hobo plan Wink

Replace the beer for food or money and it would be good for you and for the poor guy.

On the same post you have this anyti.me card from France:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1124385.msg12080977#msg12080977

and this viking card from Belgium:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1124385.msg12135141#msg12135141

And I'm sure I'll find more when I have time to research.

I'd find it strange if I couldn't find cards like these in Germany, the biggest country in Europe.

If you consider that these cards need to have an associated account and that any account in EU can be converted to an iban we just need to learn how to find the associated account number and convert to iban.

Bear in mind that some accounts might not allow bank-to-bank transfers but I'm pretty sure we can find one that allows it.

More:

Reading more about the cards you can find who is behind these cards.

In the viking card site you can see:

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MasterCard and the MasterCard Brand Mark are registered trademark of MasterCard International Incorporated. The VikingCard Prepaid MasterCard is issued by Transact Payments Limited pursuant to licence by MasterCard International Incorporated. Transact Payments Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Commission, Gibraltar.

I believe these guys in Gibraltar must issue several other cards and being an offshore they are not so tightly regulated.

Other offshores to look for are Luxembourg and Liechtenstein and maybe some british islands.

Anytime french card:

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The Anytime© Card is issued by R. Raphael & Sons plc, pursuant to licence from Visa Europe. R. Raphael & Sons plc is a UK Bank authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and the Prudential Regulation Authority (registration number 161302). Head office and registered office at 19-21 Shaftesbury Avenue, London, W1D 7ED, United Kingdom, company registration number 01288938. Anytime allows you to buy, sell, receive and send money subject to Terms and Conditions. Receive a Visa card* and manage it on your mobile. Anytime offers customised and off-the-shelf payments solutions for individuals and corporates. Funds deposited are immediately available on your Visa card. Order a Visa card for personal use, simplifying employee expenses, teaching personal finance management to teenagers, pooling money to gift friends and colleagues. Anytime Visa can be used anywhere in the world where Visa is accepted.

What if we could ask this R. Raphael & Sons plc to issue a bitcointalk card tailored to our needs?

I'm sure a lot of people in these forums would like to have a card with these features.

I think this is possible.

From Luxembourg:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1141625.msg12304750#msg12304750

From Czech Republic:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843240.40

I'll continue my research because I really want something like this.

The last option would be to start a bank in a less developed country or offshore where regulations are less strict and you don't need massive amount of funds to start.

Let me know what you got so far.

Man.....that´s some good information you got.....nice work..thanks a lot....

First of all, my cards from Poland never got blocked, so there is no need for me to got there...lucky for me !

Next: THe Austrian and French cards are only going to be issued to people from that country....also ID verification.....no foreigners.....sadly... Sad

The card from belgium sounds nice....no verification necessary, unless you want higher limits....just need a fake adress in your country and you´re ready to go....and THAT would be the next problem.....a fake named post box Huh

are there some anonymous alternatives for receiving the cards without giving up your real home adress???.....

We have a similar option in germany to the belgium card, like here....https://www.gebuhrenfrei.com/Home/
...but....also the problem with the post box...where send it to? Huh

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going to check your propositions from the czech repuplic and from luxembourg next....

thanks you very very much for the information....