Quote from: Sourgummies on September 09, 2015, 06:59:20 AM

Quote from: BitNow on September 09, 2015, 01:02:36 AM

Quote from: Sourgummies on September 09, 2015, 01:00:12 AM

This is a discussion about why Atheists hate religion and you are using GOD to get out of any true discussion. Its always a trolls first attempt to derail by insulting ones intelligence.
You have asked to stay on topic but you wander off everytime some one asks a question that pokes a hole in the theory of GOD.

Do you like simple solutions?

Quote from: Sourgummies on September 09, 2015, 01:00:12 AM

Maybe that is why people hate religion because it demands to be respected well showing little the other way,history can attest to this.

That is staying on topic.

And that is not what religion is about, that is what I'm implying you to do.

Quote from: Sourgummies on September 09, 2015, 01:00:12 AM

Answer my question without relying on the out clause of me not being a believer and I might give you a leg to stand on.

Answering a question without taking into considerations the environment is stupid and I'm an engineer I will show unprofessionalism if I will do that.

Thank You.

The problem we have with religion and its posters,is it always lacks depth. As soon as a issue of any merit is raised,a cop out is raised and we non believers are supposed to act like it holds weight in the discussion. Why are atheists supposed to explain everything but religious types can just say "god wills it"! Coming from any religious stance shows those with out prejudice of religion that you are working with blinders. A bias that controls all aspects of life,so strong that it quite often is unshakable.

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Referencing emboldened passage: A couple dozen times now, I've raised a sound concern regarding the belief of (most) atheists here that they "believe (only) in science" and that for which there is scientific evidence. Specifically, I pointed out the established fact that science operates upon assumptions that are non-empirical and empirically unfalsifiable, and similarly have pointed out the additional fact that science cannot even conclude upon the very mathematical, algebraic structures upon which scientific theory-making depends (i.e. theories are algebraic constructs).

While this point has been acknowledged only a couple of times by more open-minded posters in this thread, most atheists here have conveniently ignored this point despite the fact that it creates serious and fundamental problems for a worldview in which scientific evidence is regarded as the only means by which we can know, or should believe in, anything.

In this case, atheists might as well replace "God wills it!" with "Science wills it!" (i.e. essentially stating that the explanatory power of science is greater than its philosophical foundations). Unfortunately, that mentality doesn't make the issue go away.