Quote from: billotronic on September 09, 2015, 01:37:06 AM

well i guess that depends on your definition of a scam...

did spots 'promise' staking contracts then cancel them citing the fine print? yes

is that a scam? no

is that enough to get your ass kicked? yes.

did spots launch a bunch of coins? yes

did these coins all fail? yes

did these coins all get swapped to a coin with different parameters that changed the economic? yes

is that a ~~darkcoin~~ scam? no

is that enough to get your ass kicked? yes

i think spoetnik the problem you are facing is this is not so much as the pirate scam as much as a day to day scam paying someones wages.

new definition of scam = majority of the sheeple/'users' end up fucked in the end. yes. and very much so. spots is no dummy and nor would you find anyone to say otherwise. his ambulance chasing has raised the bar for what pieces of shit can get away with on these forums and to not call these fucks out is just as bad as turning a blind eye to pirate type schemes. staying 'neutral' in such matters only diminishes what respect I had for you.

You forgot to mention that there was a major vulnerability in Bucks and Spots ignored it, called it FUD, said it was fixed when it wasn't, and then lied about saying it was fixed in order to try to cover it up.

@Spoetnik

This is probably the most definitive piece of evidence in the thread, plus you missed all of Spots posts he deleted from this thread (everything that was not quoted).

Quote from: Crestington on August 13, 2015, 08:58:58 AM

Quote from: iGotSpots on August 13, 2015, 08:46:01 AM

Quote from: Crestington on August 13, 2015, 08:44:06 AM

Quote from: iGotSpots on August 13, 2015, 08:14:45 AM

I'm still not sure why you guys are mad at me when the multipool had the price to nearly 10k within three days of being launched (yes, quadrupled the price in under a week) before Ricky, RoboRob, and vegasguy started using modified wallets to dump on you lol we were moving it in the right direction; the people FUDing me are the ones who dumped on you and now are talking shit because they made their money already, not me. I'll eat losses all day, I could not possibly care less Kiss

How come you said the exploit was fixed when it wasn't?

Also, the root of why people are FUDing is not discussing peoples criticisms without attacking people. Maybe you don't like what someone is saying but to post peoples PM's just to try to tear them down when you made them angry in the first place sets a bad precedent. If you make enough people angry then they will find a way to tear you down too, this is what lead us here.

I made no comments about it at all, quit putting words into my mouth. I still don't care what the issue even is/was, I'm writing these coins off as a loss instead of dumping on people

You discussed it on the C-Cex chat box about 3 weeks ago, you said you fixed the rumored exploit in an update that did not require a hardfork. I asked you about the exploit, what it was and how it was fixed and you said that you could not tell me because it could be used against other Coins. I just assumed you were talking shit because had you actually fixed a time exploit then it would require a hardfork and you don't care about other Coins as you've threatened to destroy many Coins (Like HYP or attacking the TEETH spinoff).

So my question once again, why did you tell everyone the exploit was fixed or didn't exist when it wasn't?

Edit: If you are going to post your PM's that VegasGuy sent you then why not also post your replies since you are skewing perception to only be in your favor.

Quote from: Fallout4 on August 13, 2015, 10:15:36 AM

Ok, seeing you are such a fan of posting conversations...

Quote from: Crestington on August 13, 2015, 08:44:06 AM

How come you said the exploit was fixed when it wasn't?

Quote from: iGotSpots on August 13, 2015, 08:46:01 AM

I made no comments about it at all, quit putting words into my mouth. I still don't care what the issue even is/was, I'm writing these coins off as a loss instead of dumping on people

Orly, no comment about it at all you say?

[2015-07-22 06:07:47] iGotSpots: @Crestington, that vulnerability was closed in bucks, but since they found it i assume its usable in other coins such as crave
[2015-07-22 06:08:02] iGotSpots: i did not know about it until they posted it though and it is a big deal, but its fixed for bucks now
[2015-07-22 06:08:40] iGotSpots: it did not require a new client for the fix, either
[2015-07-22 06:08:51] Crestington: @iGotSpots, what was the exact vulnerability?
[2015-07-22 06:09:23] iGotSpots: like im going to say that in a chatbox lol

Then a week or two later when I first discovered I could no longer stake GorillaBucks I tried to ask you about it. This is where our recent relationship began:

[2015-08-06 13:25:41] Fallout: Hey Spots
[2015-08-06 13:26:37] iGotSpots: yo
[2015-08-06 13:26:49] Fallout: Care to explain this: http://bucks.blockexplorer.cc/address/BRs3e2APRxhjsCjdRSujVHNtb2krBt3GEF
[2015-08-06 13:27:20] iGotSpots: nope
[2015-08-06 13:28:01] iGotSpots: because i know what youre trying to do and i dont have time for the kiddy games anymore
[2015-08-06 13:28:26] iGotSpots: find someone else to argue with
[2015-08-06 13:29:10] Fallout: Im an investor, Im trying to find out what is going on
[2015-08-06 13:33:15] Fallout: So I shouldnt ask questions?
[2015-08-06 13:34:40] iGotSpots: its ok, one day youll learn how coins work and this will alllll make sense Wink

[2015-08-06 13:36:13] Fallout: Did you even look at it? Thats not a masternode payment wallet
[2015-08-06 13:36:24] iGotSpots: well
[2015-08-06 13:36:30] iGotSpots: we know who has arrived here tonight now ;p
[2015-08-06 13:38:07] Fallout: Not trolling, dont dismiss it. Its an issue as far as I can see
[2015-08-06 13:39:54] stabycroc;_)>: @Fallout, im a troll box troll and no wat ur asking isnt trolling, u asked clear and to the point without hate or fud... ur fine dw
[2015-08-06 13:40:52] Fallout: Its a staking wallet, staking every minute or so
[2015-08-06 13:46:10] Fallout: Unless I am mistaken, this is bad Spots, its not the only wallet either
[2015-08-06 13:47:31] iGotSpots: guess the coin is broke and you should sell
[2015-08-06 13:48:16] Fallout: I think I will. If you are happy that two wallets seem to be taking all the stakes and it doesnt bother you.
[2015-08-06 13:48:16] stabycroc;_)>: PM@Fallout, & that is why i troll spots into the ground... ego ova professionalizm
[2015-08-06 13:49:40] Fallout: Ive backed you in the past but this is a joke
[2015-08-06 13:49:41] iGotSpots: wanna know a secret
[2015-08-06 13:49:52] iGotSpots: (i have videos and tips in the wallet on how to stake efficiently)
[2015-08-06 13:49:56] iGotSpots: like i said earlier
[2015-08-06 13:50:08] iGotSpots: people should really read WHAT i say instead of what is said ABOUT me
[2015-08-06 13:51:10] stabycroc;_)>: well he isnt asking about u Mr.ego he asking about the wallet and coin.... less ego more pro!!
[2015-08-06 13:51:11] iGotSpots: i know what youre trying to do and im not playing that game
[2015-08-06 13:51:36] Fallout: Drop your ego for one minute and just look ffs
[2015-08-06 13:51:12] Fallout: I can read, I have setup many wallets, with small inputs. I stake about a hundred a day. These wallets are pulling over 1000 a day
[2015-08-06 13:52:17] iGotSpots: im looking right at it
[2015-08-06 13:52:24] iGotSpots: i can squint and look harder if youd like?
[2015-08-06 13:52:44] iGotSpots: i see nothing except someone who is following my tips

You then proceeded to delete all questions from the main thread for the rest of the day. You were trying to hide the exploit from everyone.
When I got up the next day you had locked the thread and abandoned GorillaBucks without a word of explanation to anyone.
The truth about the exploit was out and you shit bricks.

That's what really happened.
The excuse about caring for your family is just a blatant lie and a way to blame others for the GorillaBucks collapse.

And BCX... you can suck me dry.