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Topic
Board Scam Accusations
Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself
by
EcuaMobi
on 10/09/2015, 17:27:47 UTC
Right before the forum got full of all these shitposts by a bunch of scammers.

(I do escrow seomtimes but never for myself, however I do not see how self escrowing alone constitutes a scam. The scam happens when the escrow and buyer/seller collude, that can happen if they are the same person or not.)

Blazr, I have to respectfully disagree.  I think you've got something a little backwards.  If the escrow and one of the two parties are the same person, isn't that the definition of collusion?  How can I fail to collude with myself?  I am myself and my interests are not separate from me nor is my communication separate from me.  How can a "third-party" escrow communicate with one party privately if the other party is also the escrow.

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I really think you're overreacting because of your previous problems with QS. Colluding may be understood as just "acting together" with somebody, with that definition escrowing for yourself is definitely a collusion but it's not necessarily a scam. However I think the most accepted definition of collusion includes "with evil or harmful intent" or "to conspire in a fraud", in this case escrowing for yourself is not collusion; you're colluding only if you do harm (i.e. scam) somebody else by acting together with your other self (i.e. your alt). So escrowing for yourself is just the first step that could end on a collusion.

That said, I reiterate I'd prefer to use an escrow that never escrows for himself and I'd definitely wouldn't do it myself. I find this activity unacceptable and far from transparent. But saying someone that does that (and doesn't steal money or do harm while doing it) is necessarily a scammer or similar is an exaggeration.