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Quote from: iambitcoin5 on September 13, 2015, 10:28:16 PM

Where in hell is the money for withdrawals coming from?

Quote from: bastilar on September 13, 2015, 10:51:10 PM

scamtos took my money, again.

I strongly suspect the majority of these payments is fake. The go to addresses of the administrator.
Then perhaps through a mixer service and as a "deposit" back into Hotwallet.

Someone on IRC said that at the beginning of this project, the KHS were sold for a value of 1.
So theoretically the Admin has somewhere lying around several tens to hundreds of million dollars.

I think it is not so much, but he definitely has enough reserves to pretend activity.

When the KHS were sold for that much there were far fewer KHS. By the time there were millions that price was very low.

A better measure of the possible wealth is the new and old hot wallets that had something like 44657 BTC pass through them.

https://blockchain.info/address/19mcjofGwKxGwhaZwDwPjdWd1KrFCZgoJJ (6000 BTC & growing)
https://blockchain.info/address/1HWqsgnSd12Gv8SpoUMi1Cj8hp79BTSpW7 (38657 BTC)

The second one goes back to the beginning of scrypt.cc. So if you are going to estimate possible gains assuming a pure Ponzi, that is the data to use.

That is not good data to use because you don't know how much of that 6k or 38k are the same coins being moved around in circles to trick people into thinking that something is happening.

It seems unlikely scrypt.cc would move deposit money around to just inflate the appearance of deposits. While I'm sure they could do it, why would they?

Deposits used to move into 1HWqsgnSd12Gv8SpoUMi1Cj8hp79BTSpW7 now they move into 19mcjofGwKxGwhaZwDwPjdWd1KrFCZgoJJ. Those are the so called hotwallets. This has been confirmed many times by different people. If you make a deposit right now it will be moved from your deposit address to 19mcjofGwKxGwhaZwDwPjdWd1KrFCZgoJJ. It is very likely that these two addresses show all the money that has been deposited into scrypt.cc.

The hard part is sizing the withdraws. Prior to the hack many different addresses funded withdraws. Now there only appears to be 1Bidh2XFr9JzfXppeZd2cPKpbnJGvqCY4h. However no idea how long that will last. So we really don't know how much of the 44657+ BTC has been withdrawn.

This data is much better than holding up a thumb and saying I heard KHS used to cost 1 euro so that means "he" has pulled in millions.

There you go making assumptions again....

Whether you realize it or not, you are perpetuating the scam by defending Scrypt.cc in any way. Either have irrefutable proof of the data you are analyzing or don't bother posting because it shows you really know nothing at all.

See this is the problem. Scam bangers, trolls what ever are not rational and don't put any thought into what they say. You claim I'm perpetuation a scam, that is nonsense. You demand I give irrefutable proof and you don't give any proof. I gave you the proof, it the deposit hot wallets.

I'm pointing out the deposits to scrypt.cc to the best that we know. That is 44657+ BTC. Why would scrypt.cc inflate deposits to their site? How would that have anything to do with being a Ponzi. What would the point be? Where is your proof.

I could see a Ponzi hiding deposits, but scrypt.cc never did that. That isn't defending scrypt.cc it is just pointing out what happened.

Tracing from deposits to withdraw ... well that used to be hard. Now it is pretty easy. That indicates a major change and coupled with everything else the current scrypt.cc is very different than the one a few months ago.