Quote from: THX 1138 on September 14, 2015, 07:54:12 PM

Quote from: bigtimespaghetti on September 14, 2015, 07:04:40 PM

...there is an undertone that socialism just hasn't been done 'right' yet.

... I do not think Britain will fall for the hard left of Corbyn, I would be stunned if they did. And then looking for work in Asia most likely. But never is a strong word, I don't know what the future holds. The current conservative government is on this ice with my generation (which up until now has been largely marginalised as non voting/non political) and are simply the best of two bad options. Now I reflect on it, I do not see any half way decent political faction that does not represent the same old nonsense that has been tried again and again.

I could write more, but I think you are familiar with most of what I have to say, I would love to hear THX thoughts on this.

bigtimespaghetti, I hadn't read your post when I made mine, so it was interesting to see your take. You make some good points, particularly the two above IMO. I'm sure if I were in my 20s now I'd feel pretty resentful and cheated by the hand that recent boomer govts have dealt them, in terms of debt, inequality of opportunity and lack of access to affordable accommodation. How will this pan out I wonder.

Have you come across Owen Jones? I see him being a significant figure in Labour's future.

Brits historically are not extremists, so I think they would have to be pushed pretty hard towards the brink to revolt in any meaningful way.

I have come across Owen Jones, I cannot remember much about him, but I remember disliking his glorification/absolution of responsibility of the poor, despite his best intentions he still sees them as children that need helping, perhaps I misread his opinions. I should probably make an effort to skim through some of his books.
Among those who understand how the previous generations benefited there is resentment or frustration. Which could well lead to some radical policies in the future- rent controls, price freezes on utilities ect...

Yes, I'd agree on your last comment. People get rabid when the NHS is threatened, despite it being a shambling inefficient mess. If I had to make a one line comment it would certainly be that real change would occur if all of a sudden the NHS becomes inviable. But by then perhaps it would be too late.