Quote from: 1aguar on September 15, 2015, 01:35:38 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 14, 2015, 08:36:05 PM

I dealt with the beam in my own eye a long time ago. It looks like it is a splinter in your eye, but that's because you are so far away. I have notice that you can't see past the splinter in your own eye, because up that close to you, the splinter is really a beam so big that you can't see anything... anything except the grains of wood on your splinter beam.

Hi, how about you quit the "holier-than-thou" posturing and tell us:

1) where Emmanuel actually suggested he was my savior?
2) how such a belief is not magical thinking?
3) how you can still have full responsibility for your life if someone else has taken that burden?
4) why didn't Emmanuel explicitly say that one must believe in him and accept him as ones personal savior to get to heaven while he was alive over and over again?
5) Why must Man have interpreters and go-betweens, authorities other than self and "saviors" to take his burden and "save even his soul"?
6) Since Matthew 7:17-21 refutes the notion that mere faith suffices for entrance into the kingdom of heaven, and even calling Jesus "Lord" is not enough; how can this possibly be reconciled with the doctrine of Paul which you promote?

I will post this link again for your education:
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/15353/did-jesus-actually-ever-say-if-you-dont-believe-in-me-you-go-to-hell

Quote from: BADecker on September 14, 2015, 10:26:57 PM

Conversely, anybody who thinks he is a Christian, but doesn't believe in Jesus' salvation, is not really a Christian.

The world likes to lump all the people who say they are Christians together, no matter what they believe. But true Christianity doesn't work that way.

Nice link.

Quote from: 1aguar on September 15, 2015, 01:35:38 AM

Gnostic Christians are true Christians; you may think they are not, but you are not an expert on the subject.

That is false.

Gnosticism has been mainly defined in a Christian context, but 99.99999999% of the "Gnostic Christianity" has been categorised as heresy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism

Gnosticism is based on Gnosi (knowledge): every "gnostic branch" professes the research of the truth through knowledge. The Bible says: knowledge leads to death.

You can accept knowledge or you can't. That's the difference between Gnosticism and Religion.

Gnosticism has come back to attention after the discovery of the Nag Hammadi Library in 1945 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Hammadi_library), however Gnosticism, in all of it branches, is identified still as heretic from all Christians Faiths. Consider that Freemasonry is considered modern Gnosticism.

Gnosticism however is different from atheism as Gnosticism still believe in a supreme being (the Demiurge).

Still OT...