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I've always been certain Szabo is Satoshi but even more convinced after hearing the pod-cast. He seems to go out of his way to refer to Satoshi in the third person. Also the fact that no-one really knows much about Szabo shows that here is an individual who is very careful about protecting his identity. I think also that Andreas knows that he is Satoshi - he's almost referential is his questions to Szabo.

Well..no.
Satoshi's white paper propose a solution for small casual transaction, just read his introduction.
If Szabo is Satoshi then he changed his mind.

Yeah, I thought this was interesting too. I tend to fall in the Szabo is Satoshi camp but Szabo is really clear lately that a main goal wasn't small transactions which seems to be at odds with Satoshi's vision. So I agree he would have had to change his mind. Another possibilty could be Satoshi was Szabo and several other people, and the others disagreed on that point. Huh

There is reason why the Genesis Block mentions a second round of bank bailouts instead of, oh say, debit/credit surcharges for small purchases at Starbucks.

Satoshi created Bitcoin to stop command economy BS like bank bailouts, not because he was charged fifty cents extra for using his AMEX to buy a latte.

Uppercase-B Bitcoin (or lowercase in Szabo notation) the first viable and most secure ecash competes with gold and central banks.

Lowercase-b bitcoin (or uppercase in Szabo notation) the blockchain technology competes with Visa/Paypal/Square (via altcoins).

Bitcoin is global revolution against authoritarianism, not the next fucking Dwolla.

Project much?

"Aug. 5, 2010: While I dont think Bitcoin is practical for smaller micropayments right now, it will eventually be as storage and bandwidth costs continue to fall. Whatever size micropayments you need will eventually be practical. I think in 5 or 10 years, the bandwidth and storage will seem trivial."
-Satoshi Nakamoto

I don't think Satoshi was as binary as you'd wish him to be.

Yes, I've used that quote several times. Thanks for reminding us Satoshi spoke of micropayments "eventually."

If you use altcoins (ie alternative forks of Bitcoin) you can already make all the micropayments you can afford! Wow, isn't that amazing?

It's barely been 5 years since Aug. 5, 2010; we're on the very early end of his estimate. I'm sure we'll have sidechains, payment channels, and more in <10 years. Have patience. Or keep accusing me of projection, if that helps your tiny brain pass the time.

Szabo uses the same big-B vs little-b bifurcation I do. If you can't follow the logic, I'm very sorry. It's been explained to exhaustion on several occasions.

I forgive you. Now you've moved on to projecting a strawman argument you can fight against. Take some deep breaths and calm down and you might see I never made a normative argument. But keep battling those illusions it's fun to watch. Grin