Quote from: BitNow on September 16, 2015, 01:24:25 PM

Quote from: popcorn1 on September 16, 2015, 03:27:47 AM

SCIENCE WILL FIND THE LAWS OF CREATION ..THEN ARE WE GODS

When science will find the laws of creation you will be destroyed.

Thank You.

Quote from: BADecker on September 16, 2015, 12:37:19 PM

I have shown the three scientific laws that prove God exists when you combine them. Sometime I will write a detailed post about how it works. But, I will repeat the laws here.

1. Probably the most important is cause and effect, which is also called action and reaction. Newton made it his 3rd Law. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. This means that there is no pure random. Real random doesn't exist. Everything in the universe is programmed. There is no free will or freedom of choice, even though we feel that there is.

You need to study Quantum mechanics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics

There is where Albert Einstein got lost: "God plays dices with the Universe".

What you say: "This means that there is no pure random." was believed before 1924 and de De Broglie hypothesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality

It's a duality.

"God plays dices with the Universe"

Quote from: BADecker on September 16, 2015, 12:37:19 PM

2. The law of universal complexity is not really a law. It is an observation. There is much complexity in existence. The human brain and human mind are among the most complex things in the universe. And they are so highly complex that we are having problems finding out how they work, even though we are making progress slowly.

Thank You.

Quote from: BADecker on September 16, 2015, 12:37:19 PM

3. The law of universal entropy. Entropy in its simple form says that everything is running down, wearing out, slowing, eroding, getting old and dying, losing complexity. We see nothing in the universe that could have caused the complexity that exists. We theorize. We guess. But we see nothing that started the complexity. And entropy says that the complexity is becoming less complex all the time.

Entropy is a measure of disorder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy

Quote from: BADecker on September 16, 2015, 12:37:19 PM

When you combine these 3 things along with the definition of the word "God," of what God would have to be if He existed, they prove that God exists. If He didn't, at least one of the three laws would have to be nonexistent. But because all 3 exist, God has to exist.

Think about it. Some time I will do a detailed comparison of the laws to explain it better. But God DOES exist, and these 3 laws of nature that science has discovered prove it.

Nice idea but there is no scientific proof that G-d exist, however with the dualism Wave-Matter of the particle we are closer to it.

Thank You.

Quantum mechanics is simply complex probability. That's why QM can only be used to back up some other form of science. It can't be used as the base for science itself.

In QM, you can find any answer. You can prove that the universe is 13 billion light years in diameter. You can also use QM to prove that the universe is 1 inch in diameter. It simply matters what you are trying to prove.

Because of this, QM can be used to prove pure random at the same time it can be used to prove that there is no pure random. It can be used to prove cause and effect, at the same time that it can be used to disprove cause and effect.

Quantum mechanics is terrific when you are on the right track, because it can show you aspects of the right track you would have never thought of. But when you are on the wrong track, QM will lead you as far astray as you will let it.

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Entropy has to do with thermodynamic equilibrium. The universe is constantly coalescing into a basic energy/mass throughout. No stars. No planets. No heat or cold. Everything equal throughout.

If the universe had existed forever, it would have coalesced entirely long ago. The fact that there is the great complexity that exists, shows that there is something that is of even greater complexity that set this whole thing going. The kind of complexity that exists shows that the Maker fits our definition of God.