Quote from: canth on September 16, 2015, 10:48:30 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 16, 2015, 10:47:11 PM

Quote from: canth on September 16, 2015, 08:26:40 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 16, 2015, 07:07:57 PM

Quote from: canth on September 16, 2015, 06:15:02 PM

The difference here is that LC started off dishonest right from the start. Straight up scam vs legit business followed by scam. I don't see how ego factors in there...

Huge, critical difference (not "slight") between intending to scam vs intending to start a legit business.

The ego comes into play when peoples' failed scam accusations against legit companies must increasingly rely on definitions of scam so broad as to be without meaning.

We don't know WTF happened to AM/FC. It's China, so anything (Mongolians!) is possible (aliens?).

For all we know the LC guys started off with legit intentions and then realized there was no way they could deliver a few weeks into the process. It's not important to me how long someone has good intentions right before they turned the corner and decided to run off with the money.

I don't think anyone has much good will toward Karpeles or Danny Brewster (Neo&Bee) for their original intentions, under the assumption that they started off legit.

OIC, you were one of those "LABCOIN? seems legit" people. Cheesy

I'll refrain from mentioning what a fair bit of the forum labels you, sir.

A fair bit of the forum can't tell the critical difference (not "slight") between intending to scam vs intending to start a legit business.

The 'Did they make a chip?' test is a pretty good way to tell if a chip company is legit.