Quote from: Xian01 on September 19, 2015, 02:51:29 PM

Quote from: SaltySpitoon on September 19, 2015, 02:13:33 PM

Nope, there is a meta thread in meta named something along the lines of Staff Member information, or Staff Dox, and it has info about 3 or 4 staff members, including volunteered information. Again, that thread has Theymos' dox in it as well. Even though people can't find these threads, I've posted in them personally, so they weren't just threads I've seen in passing.

Weak.

You are the people I was refering to.

Quote from: Blazedout419 on September 19, 2015, 02:36:28 PM

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Quote from: GannickusX on September 19, 2015, 10:23:55 AM

I understand your point about account selling saltyspitoon, i have seen it a few times but im still skeptical about it, i understand the forum cant stop people from selling accounts but forbidding it would make it way harder for people to sell accounts and im sure less acounts would be sold.

It wouldn't make a difference. Even if account sales were banned it wouldn't stop it or even barely put a dint in it. All that would happen is accounts will be sold off site. At least it's safer here as you can use an escrow, but when people are selling them via skype or their crappy sites they set up many people will just get scammed.

Who cares if someone gets scammed doing something against the rules? If account selling were banned why care?

While account buying/selling is sort of off topic, its not about whether people get scammed buying/selling the accounts, it truely is about it being unenforceable. People could buy/sell accounts on site with PGP or whatever else. Those that would be at greater risk of being scammed, are those that believe account buying/selling doesn't happen because it is against the rules, and trades blindly with those they have traded with before.

Quote from: dogie on September 19, 2015, 02:57:41 PM

How? If you're not willing to remove or even mod edit proven wrongful accusations or even archive them, what can anyone do?

Why should I be responsible for fact checking and what makes me reliable enough to do so? What if someone pays me off to remove their info whether its correct or not? What if I remove information that is correct and it leads to further issues, am I responsible? These issues can all be removed by having people do their own work.

Quote from: dogie on September 19, 2015, 02:57:41 PM

Yes? They're how normal people without moderator powers IRL enforce their rights. Malicious prosecution will get your ass handed to you so the answer is absolutely yes and to try and compare a lawsuit to a dox is just silly. A dox is there to damage the other party, it serves no purpose.

Dox gives accountability to the person behind the name, not a pseudonym.

Quote from: dogie on September 19, 2015, 02:57:41 PM

That's a weird way of looking at it. Approximately 20% of the US reports having been abused in one form of another, Assuming a 1:1 abuser victim ratio, would it be justifiable for one of those crazies to run over 5 people with the excuse that they were trying to kill a child abuser? My point is you're justifying anyone and everyone being able to be doxed without cause, because there will be some people who "deserve it".

Lucky for us, this is an online forum and running over someone in a car is difficult. My point is, when people dox someone, there tends to be a reason. If they post the wrong dox, they have personal motivation to correct it. If you had scammed me, and I blamed John Doe from Uruguay, posted their info, and it was proven to be incorrect, why would I not try and find your true info and remove the false info? Theres no rational reason to post false dox intentionally, its completely counterproductive. If someone makes a mistake in doxing and its proven wrong, I would think they would try to correct it immediately if not sooner.

Quote from: dogie on September 19, 2015, 02:57:41 PM

So I just spent 30 minutes looking for these threads by all sorts of keywords, search engines etc. I even looked through all of your posts back to 2013, its not there. The closest I could find was a 2011 thread where people put their real names against their pseudonyms and some very basic information. So it looks like someone has either deleted, delisted or archived these actual doxes.

That is my point, if they're not findable then they're not damaging or a problem to anyone. Trying to compare that to people posting infinitely more complex doxes along with doctored, false and private information alongside fabricated and malicious claims is just condescending. Its also likely illegal that on notice of the offending content, the forum refuses to remove it.

I found three or so mentions with basic keyword searches, Theymos, Theymos Identity, Theymos Dox, Staff/ Staff Member Dox etc. You can also try google if you would like, there are a couple threads that come up that way too. There is also a false dox on Theymos accusing him of being a senator or something like that (skimmed but didn't read). You must not have been searching very hard, as I wasn't.

Quote from: dogie on September 19, 2015, 02:57:41 PM

How about archive doxes once they've served (if any) their purpose or been proven to be false?

tldr: Admins felt that a basic thread listing who they were was offending enough to archive or delete, yet won't consider archiving or deleting known malicious or false doxes of others.

Again, read what I said earlier. No one wants to post false Dox. There is no rational reason to post false dox. If a mistake was made, the person posting it would want to correct it asap. There is absolutely no logical reason to post false dox and stand by it. If I scammed you and you posted my dox, would you take my word for it if I told you it was false?