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Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ?
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1aguar
on 22/09/2015, 21:41:22 UTC
I am confused for two reasons:
1) I learned about the importance of obeying God's Law and the New Commandment from the Phoenix Project writings, so apparently they DO provide a Christian teaching. Is it not enough for you that these writings teach the truth of the two commandments that Jesus gave us?
2) You say that Jesus saves us, but Jesus gave this command: "There is none other commandment greater than these", "this do, and thou shalt live", so there is no other requirement in order to be a Christian, and you do NOT need a savior in order to have life. It seems to me that Jesus showed us the path, but he himself was not that path. Would you agree?

1aguar the 2 commandments Jesus told us to follow are here:

Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Right, so my questions to you are:
1) Is it not enough for you that these writings teach the truth of the two commandments that Jesus gave us?
2) Did Jesus not state "thou shalt live", which means that there is no other requirement in order to be a Christian?

You think you are god, and that everyone is god and you, yourself can save yourself.

This is not loving the Lord thy God with all thy heart! That is loving yourself over God, the creator of us.
I love not self over God's Law of goodness, for without God I am nothing, but God resides within me so I must acknowledge that I have the power to obey what he has written upon my heart. When you realize who you are, that is when you start taking responsibility for obeying God, for listening to God who resides within you, for listening to your heart!!

The problem with religion is that it attempts to separate the human from God;
God resides within you,
everyone is capable of following the golden rule, it is ingrained into human consciousness.
All monotheists acknowledge only ONE God, so they are really all talking about the same intelligence as described by Anthony Flew above.
The Holy Spirit is inside of us, but we are not God.

1 Corinthians 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? 20 For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.

We (everyone) have been bought for a price, Jesus dying on the cross FOR US. We, Christians, do NOT deny the Lord died for us and we could not be free without Jesus.
That is a teaching of Paul, it is not the teaching of Jesus.
Jesus did not give any commandments that said "I am your personal savior", or that he died on the cross for you, or anything like that. He gave one commandment, and told you to follow him in his teaching because HE was on the way to the Father. He came to show us the path, but he was not the path itself.
I don't need a go-between or authority figure, I know that God resides within me!