Quote from: toknormal on September 27, 2015, 01:05:58 AM

Quote from: YourMother on September 27, 2015, 12:24:39 AM

I always thought that the only way to change this is for Evan to quit this project and start another one with a clean distribution and conscience....

Thoughtful remark. As it happens I think Satoshi should have just "quit" and start again with a properly fungible 2-tier network that would have saved us all a lot of time and effort. While we're at it - all those perfectly launched coins with nice emmission curves that had 100's of thousands of dollars invested in them and then went straight to zero could also ideally just have "expired" prior to ripping off their holders.

Although there is some tiny semblance of merit to what your proposing within the incestuous confines of bitcointalk, be advised that the general public 'out there' regard all of crypto as 'instamined'. Nothing to do with stumbling starts - just that nobody told them about it and there's about 7 billion of them and about 5 thousand of "us" (if you're lucky).

If there's one thing thats for sure, it's that if any of these projects make it out of the "nursery", it won't be the one with the 'perfect launch'. It will be the one that best addresses all the challenges that face a fledgling monetary token in a way that markets evaluate as having a future viability.

As for distribution - if you think that a mining emissions curve has a hope in hell of having anything to say about a "clean distribution" in a market of this size and age then I urge you to have a go at sweeping a porch in a tornado. It might help you to put a few things in perspective. Over the last year anyone that wanted to has been able - and still can - to pick up practically any amount of alt coin for peanuts. Emissions curves are one route to distribution but thats all they are. Markets are another and are equally viable, if not more so, because they price in all that has gone on in that coin's history.

If cryptos ever get anywhere near the levels of valuation and liquidity that the holders with their tongues hanging down to the floor are anticipating, then emissions curves may become far more important, obviously. But the idea of ditching as promising a technology as this in its early stages when there is no other competitor anywhere near it would have been sheer idiocy - for developers AND investors.

Exactly. The whole subject is completely stupid. What matters is that Dash is being developed at super speed and nobody will catch up with us. Nobody can duplicate us either because we have the most secure network via the heavy investment and commitment locked inside Masternodes and high hash rates (though we do have too much hash on coinmine.pl.) This will all work itself out in the end though.

Everything else doesn't have anything to do with the security and functioning of Dash, and in the end, what Dash can do is all that matters. So you can be petty and say "I didn't get in on this early like these other lucky people" or you can get with the program.

I couldn't figure out mining in time and got none of the spillage. And it was over 2 months before I learned you could rent servers to mine. By then, it was too late. In the end, I only mined up about 1500 coins, buying the rest I needed for my second masternode. 1000 coins, my son bought at my suggestion at over $4 a coin. That's how it goes. If I had money I'd be buying up like crazy. (we're broke, except for what I initially invested - then luckily, was able to pull out and pay back again - then spent on bills, and I mean broke) My sister buys us ground beef at costco, my mom slips me $5 every once in a while so I can buy myself a coveted diet coke because it's not in the budget. It's seriously sad over here, but we survive and are holding on to our dilapidated old house, yaay! But the last thing I'd do is complain, because this is so exciting and awesome and I got in on it! It's wonderful! If I had $6k, and discovered Dash now, I'd invest immediately. and that's the truth!

Whining just leaves you in the dust buddy.

And for Evan to start all over again would be nothing short of stupid. (Edit: misunderstood) Number of coins doesn't matter, what matters is how much money it takes to grab enough Masternodes to have a chance at successfully attacking the network. You can always add zeros to the number of coins. And right now, that's pretty much impossible. THAT is all that matters regarding the price.