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Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat

. A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:

Lots of vegans will try and push this argument, that humans are not technically omnivores. It's complicated, but we know that humans have eaten meat for at least 10,000 years (probably much longer) and our physiology points towards us being omnivorous. It seems silly to say we're not omnivorous, because we can digest vegetables and meat (we have the enzymes present in our gut to break down meat). Just because we don't need meat, doesn't mean we are herbivores/frugivores.

Anyway, I've never thought this argument mattered much, because we know that you CAN survive as a vegan (albeit with a little difficulty). And most intelligent vegans will use another, more compelling argument - The reason, they say, that we shouldn't eat meat is because we know that we don't need it, and we also know that animals are suffering as a result of our meat-eating.

Now personally I think most vegans are shooting themselves in the foot when they try and recruit others, by saying that killing animals is morally wrong. This is because most people won't make such a drastic change to their diet (like many people, I love meat too much to give it up).

What they should be doing, is getting people to eat free-range, outdoor reared animals rather than cheap shitty battery animals. This way, everyone wins - The animals don't suffer and have a happy life, the farmers get paid more, and the consumer gets tastier, healthier meat. If every vegan did this instead of trying to guilt trip everyone into giving up meat, there would be more happy animals in the world.

I guess the vegans would argue that the animal still gets killed at some point in their life even if free range against their will. Probably in a period of being in their prime also. Just saying. Agree on some of the points for sure.

Currently im mostly a pescetarian fwiw but had a chicken burger a month ago Grin

So the overall feeling here is that the chart is total horsecrap?

Cats eat grass. Yes they do. They are meat eaters, but they eat grass at times for enzymes and phytonutrients. You can vary your diet and still be the kind of being that falls into a specific group... especial if you are a human, and have free will, rather than being controlled by instinct.

Yup, thats what my cat did when he got into a fight and got wounded in his neck (it was pretty nasty) and when I was gonna take to the vet he left house for a week.
And then i saw him eating some grass next to our neighbor.