Quote from: sgbett on October 07, 2015, 08:41:17 PM

Quote from: Lauda on October 07, 2015, 06:46:36 PM

Bitcoin does not scale efficiently on it's own. This is correct, and some developers have even stated this or something of similar meaning. This does not mean that we should not scale Bitcoin. This does not mean that we should only scale Bitcoin via block size increase either. You'd have to look into block propagation times and orphan rates to get a better insight. There were good presentations in the recent workshop. What Bitcoin needs is a dynamic block size in a combination with the Lightning Network, sidechains, etc. Only then will Bitcoin be able to be used by the majority.

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 07, 2015, 06:37:32 PM

Please move beyond the simplistic 'every-coffee-and-bagel-on-the-Blockchain' paradigm. That POV is so three-years-ago, and was rubbished once and for all by a single domination post.

I concur. This is pretty much impossible due to the two things listed above (propagation times and orphans); impossible without the Lightning Network or something else.

I agree, we need a lightning network. So that when it becomes uneconomical to transact on chain, there is a backup. What I don't agree with is that uneconomical should be forced. Let the free market decide. Give the miners the headroom to discover the most cost effective block size. The stepped approach in BIP101 goes someway towards it, but really the system should be self regulating. No cap.

Propogation, orphan rates etc are engineering issues that will be solved when its worth solving them. Free market.

Lightning network will be implemented when its worth doing so. Free market.

Capitalism works, Unbridled it fails. Bitcoin is the reigns.

Quote from: brg444 on October 06, 2015, 07:25:55 PM

Consequences of "mass adoption" & failure to enforce centralized limits and account for market incentives.