Quote from: brg444 on October 09, 2015, 07:38:46 PM

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 09, 2015, 07:02:38 PM

You think that most people should rely on off chain solutions? Needing third parties in order to transact in Bitcoin defeats part of the purpose. We should be able to use the Bitcoin Blockchain directly, off chain solutions do not truly increase the throughput of the Bitcoin blockchain.

I think icebreaker missed that part:

Quote from: Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

What is needed is an electronic payment system based on cryptographic proof instead of trust,
allowing any two willing parties to transact directly with each other without the need for a trusted
third party.

The only way to use Bitcoin without relying on a third party is to run a full node. How else do you propagate your transactions privately.

What's the point of running a full node if you can't use it because blocks are bloated anyway.

"Running a node is the only way to verify you balance privately without signaling your intention to the NSA"

Your full node is to be used in the future mostly to settle or resolve disputes between the numerous open source payment systems to come.

Which means running a full node will become useless for almost everybody but financial institutions to settle their interbank payments. Not very useful for you and me.