Quote from: n2004al on October 12, 2015, 04:00:10 PM

Quote from: bitart on October 10, 2015, 08:00:08 PM

Quote from: birdcat90 on October 10, 2015, 07:08:40 AM

up until now i dont know if bitcoin can be categorized as currency,,it just commodity without physical like gold..

if bitcoin a currency there there will be a paper bitcoin,,or anything that has physical..

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I've hered that there are some phisical bitcoin coins, but since the value of them are so much (approx. 250 USD now) that it makes people not to use them as normal everyday coins.
Just imagine what is the approx. value of the normal coins you have in your pocket/leather wallet/car's ashtry, is it worth the value of 1 bitcoin coin?
The bitcoin coin is phisical (or will be phisical if I know it wrong), but because of the value of it you would put it into your safe instead of your pocket.
Another question if the bitcoin coin will have smaller coins (change) like cent for EUR or for USD. This could be the satoshi for example

Any physical bitcoin have no value as a currency but only as an ornamentation object. Those are made by bitcoin passionate people which pretend to create with those even their being unique (meaning being unique as it is every bitcoin) and not reproducible. But this don't make them regular bitcoin because bitcoin is known only as a digital currency from everyone. And it is not known yet how (which, what) can be a physical bitcoin.

Thanks for the clarification, so it means that those phisical coins are only a kind of art work instead of the phisical appearance of bitcoin itself?
If you have a bitcoin coin like that, it only worths what passionate poeple wants to pay for it even if the 1 bitcoin value is written on that?
Bitcoin is working while there is power for the computers that processes the transactions, like money is working while there are banks and clearing systems they run the whole system. Phisical money exists, but payments are tending to be done by bankcards, even since paypass or paywave or the smartphone NFC payment systems have been introduced. You can use NFC cards as a montly ticket on subway, train, bus etc.
So these kind of digital things are used and alive as long as the backend system is up and running.
I can imagine the phisical bitcoin as a kind of coin that you buy only once and you assign your wallet to it (so it should be a kind of NFC tag coin, you don't have to hand it over to buy anything but just to tap it to the reader and the payment is done.)
Normal everyday bank cards are only specific numeric strings and are linked to your account where you have your money digitally (or you have your credit line also digitally in case of credit cards).
So why it is not possible for bigger bitcoin wallet providers to phisically produce some NFC tags with their own logo on it and let the people start using them instead of (or paralell with) their bank cards?
The problem yet should be the acceptance, but I think every smartphone that's NFC capable could be a kind of POS terminal for these kind of tags and this way acceptance could spread rapidly (e.g. wallet provider's app would be able to process this kind of payments)
Even there are phisical wallets available (trezor, etc), these are nearly the bitcoins themselves.