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Some Atheists just don't believe in religion, but don't criticize others for believing, but then get tired of the believers who try to change them so much. I've seen that happen to a friend of mine multiple times.

that is the biggest problem with the pope's or other respected people in different religions .
they have no logical thinking nor much open mindedness but they try to fool others in all that bullshit ,they wont even care to listen your opinions which are against their principles.

Yes you are right.. Every type of person find in that world... Most of the atheist criticize others for believing which is totally wrong... Everyone has right to live his life by his own opinion.. opinion varies among people but this is not right you attack on someone's religion's or his believes...

yes I get your point but I was saying the exact opposite of what you mean ....
I was referring to the pope's ,pandit's and all those who try and force people to become religious....etc

All people have religion. If nothing else, they religiously inhale and exhale on a regular basis.

yes i would be much satisfied to call my respiratory system as my religion as i would be responsible for each and every situation in my life.
rather than just giving power to shitbags.

You don't even understand the idea of responsibility. And here's why.

Whatever free will decision you make, isn't really free will. Why not? Because there is something that prompted you to make the decision that you made. Even if it only was the bio-electric biochemicals in your brain that fired certain groups of synapses that made you decide everything that you decided in the way you decided it all, it wasn't free will. Neither you nor I nor anyone else have free will. We are prompted by cause and effect to make every seemingly free will decision that we make.

Since we don't have free will, how can we take responsibility for anything? Here's how.

God givers you free will in certain aspects of the faith you have in Him. That's right. Even though you claim you are an atheist, you still have faith in God. How do we know? Because you can't decide anything on your own... no free will. It all has to do with the way God takes the faith you have in Him, and manipulates the things of your life so that you think that you have free will. He does it with the hope that you will wake up to Him.

The only free will you have lies in aspects of the amount of faith you have in God. God directs all the rest. Therefore, you are responsible for kicking God out of your life, and for all the bad things that happen to you because of the way you handled that one decision that you CAN make.