Quote from: figmentofmyass on October 24, 2015, 01:21:13 AM

Quote from: tl121 on October 24, 2015, 12:41:46 AM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on October 23, 2015, 09:43:53 PM

if nodes (wholesale) can't withstand a DDOS attack, bitcoin isn't very robust, is it? indeed, there are various optimizations that could and should be implemented to assist in withstanding DDOS. feel free to contribute code to assist.

if nodes can be DDOSed to the extent that overall node health (and decentralization) are threatened, that has fuck-all to do with "centralization of development." it simply means improvements to the protocol need be made.

Tell it to my neighbors. Their Internet service was taken down for several hours. The criminals DDoS'd the entire ISP, not just my node. If my node had been DDoS'd that would have been an annoyance, but I would not have called it a terrorist attack if there had been no collateral damage.

I have talked to customers of my ISP who experienced the Internet outage. They know nothing about Bitcoin and are not interested in it. Their experience was collateral damage. Not just Internet service but also telephone service was disrupted because of this criminal attack. People could conceivably have died. Wake up. Grow up.

i'm at a loss for words, really. how is it that you can blame Core developers because some entity decided to coordinate a DDOS attack? i understand that it sucks to be DDOSed, but you're not saying anything relevant to the topic at hand. what does you (and your neighbors) getting DDOSed have to do with anything?

this is like me getting DDOSed and blaming the Chinese government because i have some idea in my head that they might benefit from disrupting stateside communications.

i'm not gonna tell it to your neighbors. your neighbors should tell it to their ISP. it's now Greg Maxwell and Peter Todd's fault that your ISP has insufficient infrastructure to deal with DDOS?

and what if Core nodes were the target, not XT? then, it's Gavin and Hearn's fault, right? and therefore XT is the problem, right? i believe that's the logic being used here.....

the next time your ISP goes down, are you really gonna keep spinning your wheels about how Core development is centralized? that's one of the most absurd arguments i've ever seen.

You made the argument about popularity of software, based on node counts. I pointed out that node counts were affected by terrorism. Any intelligent person would see that node counts are not a reliable reflection of community support because of this situation. Any intelligent person without an ulterior motive would not have replied the way you did.