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Please cut djm a little slack - he's really a good dude, but this is stressing out all of us.

Prove it. Words ring hollow, your actions are what make you who you are.

I can say I'm a pretty rainbow unicorn fairy, that doesn't make me one.

You're an asshole who loves talking about shit you know nothing about, then...

Yup, I know nothing about economics of cryptos or care about anything other then how much BTC I get paid in one large lump sum... and even then when people do offer me a lump sum I'll complain that it's not enough. You got me. (That is rhetoric and sarcasm BTW) That's the whole reason I try to cut back room deals with devs instead of knowing I'm not getting in their good graces to try and help everyone.

I know talking about things you don't like will make you hate me. I know that means you will more then likely never sell me a kernel, regardless of the fact that you say you'll whore yourself to whoever has money. I have a lot of money at stake here and I still do, even after you already fucked me with AMD kernels.

A miner fee doesn't benefit just me, it benefits everyone. I said I'd mine at 2% for SP if he added one to his miner. I really don't care if it doesn't include all the developers. I'd like it to include people like Pallas that helps quite a bit and everyone that contributed, but if no one actually wants to make a system where people get fed and instead no one does, I'll take what I can get.

I don't hate you. I think you're whining about something that YOU want OTHER PEOPLE to do. YOU should learn to implement a miner fee, and then come to devs with a workable, MIT licensed, miner shell that needs algos. If you did some shit like that, maybe there WOULD be a good miner with a fee out there - and you'd get a cut!

Why should I pay you to take my money? How entitled are you?

Just to make sure you read that right. I need to pay money for then again have you take more money.

I have bought private miners. I have donated to people. I don't know what else you're looking for here. I'm not paying more money for you then again to take more of my money. I don't think we have a clear differentiation of our job roles here princess.

Look lets use Nicehash as an example. They provide a service, they get paid for their service with fees for using it. They realize that they're essentially employing both miners and coin traders, therefore they want to keep both in business. They subsidize their work by paying for better miners that are openly available to everyone, so that the miners who aren't sucking enough kernel makers dick will still be able to keep their hardware turned on... Which at the end of the day will benefit Nicehash as well as everyone else.

It's win-win, even if they can't rape the pie like you guys want to do. In the end you're burning everything to the ground around you to build your little shit palace in the middle of it.

No, you would GET money - for having contributed... what? You'd get part of the miner fees, I meant...

I'm a miner, why would I get a portion of a miner fee? I didn't make any code. I want to use a miner fee as a way of contributing with my hardware. It's a donation. I don't want to get donated to. I just want to keep kernel makers employed so they'll keep making competitive kernels and a miner fee is the best way of doing this, so we wont end up in private miner shit valley where all the pub kernels are unprofitable and all the plebs like myself have to shut down and sell our hardware.

Just to set things straight. I would get NO portion of a miner fee. It's all for whoever is making the code. I'm a miner, I mine with hardware, I use the miner with the fee and I donate 2% of my hashrate. Preferably it would be split up among all the developers who contributed, but just getting developers to start accepting a miner fee as a alternative to selling private miners to big fat-cat farms is a start.

You're apparently not even reading what I'm writing, here...

Apparently because you aren't explaining things princess. I wrote two paragraphs on your one broken sentence. I'm not the one who isn't communicating.

I'm not sure what else "You'd get part of the miner fees..." would mean.

Using lots of words doesn't make you effective at communicating. Anyways...

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I don't hate you. I think you're whining about something that YOU want OTHER PEOPLE to do. YOU should learn to implement a miner fee, and then come to devs with a workable, MIT licensed, miner shell that needs algos. If you did some shit like that, maybe there WOULD be a good miner with a fee out there - and you'd get a cut!

Try reading that again.

When you're trying to convey a position it certainly helps, especially when you write something ambiguous which can be misinterpreted. Notice how I wrote a second paragraph just to make sure you didn't misread what I wrote?

And once again I'm not a developer, that's not my job. There are multiple jobs in the crypto scene and that's one of them. If I had a lot of money to throw around I'd definitely consider making a startup focused around a miner, but I don't as you already helped me lose a good amount of my initial investment in cryptos. Which is why I either have to deal with your shit and try to change your opinion on it or hope someone like Nicehash does something to help. I'm looking for something that makes everyone happy or at least content.

You could open an exchange and make money off fees there too if you wanted to! Why don't you do that and then use the profits to subsidize your ability to code? Oh wait, you have no interest in that and it's not your job.

Notice at no point did I say I wanted you to give me something for free? I'm even suggesting giving me what you already are, only I pay a fee. I'm offering to do something associated with my job, which is pay a fee.