Quote from: Akka on October 19, 2012, 05:45:18 AM

Should I return the full double payment, or take my 10% out of it?

Wouldn't it be better, to mail everyone who has gotten a double payment with a different address, so you can keep track of returned funds and who will get the 10% remaining?

Or will everyone get them no matter if he returns them and you just hope all people are honest (which the aren't).

I will return the funds, but I don't want to make you clusterfuck even worse (all returns in one address, some minus 10%, some full), so please send out a mail to all accounts with details.

Thank you.

I'd think Nefario's expecting the double payment in full and at this point has to trust everyone for their honesty.

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Quote from: FreeMoney on October 19, 2012, 07:30:21 AM

Quote from: Nefario on October 18, 2012, 10:59:45 PM

So, for anyone reading this who has gotten a double payment, the return address is 1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j

It would be better to return the coins without me having to chase you for them.

Lol. Without the threat (hypothetically, I didn't actually get paid, certainly not twice) I'd return them, but if he's going to be 'chasing' people I would use his coins to cover defense costs (running shoes?) since you are about as likely to get 'chased' if you pay or not, he doesn't know who sends coins to that address.

No idea about that, but I don't think it was meant as a literal threat to chase you. Seems more like he meant it would be easier if people just returned it instead of him losing time and nagging everyone for the return of the BTC. Although without any voice tone, it's impossible to determinate. Poor communication there.
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Quote from: dishwara on October 19, 2012, 07:53:25 AM

Its not that hard to find who has returned & who hasn't.

He has receivers or members bitcoin address.
Just have to compare it with their GLBSE account, if he sent 90% or 180%.
If its 180%, then i assume he will force them to repay by not returning the assets they have in their GLBSE account.

His only reply after ~20+ days, shows some what aggressive & commanding, instead of requesting or asking or begging.

Since he so far didn't repay any asset issuers their bitcoin, & his commanding reply, shows he has some plans.
Maybe he will just transfer all shares & bonds to LEGAL exchange (Bitcoinglobal).
Coz already, most of the asset issuers identity is known, they cant runaway from government to hide their money, if they do anything illegal in respect to assets they issued.

So for asset issuers, the choice will be transfer all the assets in to new LEGAL exchange & continue business or default assets or get back assets.
Asset issuers cant default, coz it will affect their reputation & future.
Also, getting back assets, will affect their reputation & future business & they loose bitcoins (thats why, he didn't repay them).

So, no good/other way, but go in Nefario's way.

He DID repay asset issuers their Bitcoins.
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As for people suggesting to keep the overpayment as ransom until asset information is disclosed, I think that's exactly why asset information is not disclosed. He needs to process payments first before giving the address to issuers and issuers giving payments, otherwise it would get confusing if something is a payment from GLBSE or from an issuer.

I'd also think like Chaang that it's plain wrong to hold on to something you know is not yours. Even if by now no one trusts Nefario. It belongs to other persons. At least return the 80% extra and keep 100%, sending from the address you provided to GLBSE, so Nefario knows how much you personally sent back. So long as it's from the same address, he'll know.

Quote from: repentance on October 19, 2012, 04:36:10 AM

A lot of people would be better off keeping the overpayment than being able to claim their now worthless shares/bonds from asset issuers so I wish him good luck with trying to get people to honour his request.

Nefario appears to have been taking customer relations lessons from Patrick Strateman.

As for that and others making such claims... plain wrong. Although I don't agree that the shares are now valueless, even if they were... you'd cut your loss by keeping other's balance and leaving others with nothing?
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Quote from: ianbakewell on October 19, 2012, 03:11:30 PM

Welcome to bitcoin.

Sent to address I control = mine. Period.

Need chargebacks, pay with creditcards.

If an agreement for my holding someone elses coin is in place, or I am to provide some value for an investment, etc - and failed to come through, sure I should be ostracized by the community.

But to say that keeping coins that magically appeared one night on my address with absolutely no agreement in place regarding the transaction, are not mine, is laughable.

If someone accidentally sent you too much money on a bank account you "control", although it's been sent in your possession, a good thing to do would be to return them. Everyone can make errors and if you'd want someone to return the same should you make a similar mistake... simple courtesy, even if according to your convictions, any money handed to you automatically becomes yours. Yes, although laws would say it would not be yours, people might consider things differently, which doesn't mean they'd have to be jerks about it and not notify/give back the extra someone would have mistakenly handed to them.

We're all not happy about GLBSE closing down, but the vengeful approach taken by some for actions done by Nefario that are detrimental to other people that were on GLBSE is plain disgusting to me. Good to know who are taking a step on everyone and take the lifeboat for yourself approach when the ship is sinking.

(P.S. Before someone counters by saying I don't get to say what's right and wrong. Yes you're free to have your own opinion of right and wrong. Just stating mine.)