Quote from: muyuu on November 01, 2015, 01:58:43 PM

Quote from: VeritasSapere on October 31, 2015, 06:56:02 PM

Quote from: muyuu on October 31, 2015, 06:36:24 PM

It's not a matter of agreement, a lot of people have stopped running their nodes for these reasons and there is overwhelming evidence of this fact.

We are not conjecturing about whether they will stop or not, this already happens, I know many cases myself and they are all over the place in this forum and reddit.

Ask people who stopped running their nodes why the did they stop.

These are facts to deal with, not to agree or disagree.

I could say that there is overwhelming evidence to support what I am saying as well. Though that does not change your position does it. Stop pretending as if your position is the absolute truth based on factual evidence while saying that my position has absolutely no merit. Ridiculing my position to increase the blocksize as if I am some sort of mad man. When very reasonable and well informed people like Andreas Antonopoulos also support this position.

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I can tell you that I have absolutely no problems running my full node and neither do the people around me. So my life and my experience and that of the people around me does serve as a counterfactual to what you are saying. Of course some people will not be able to run full nodes forever but we should not expect them to especially when the sacrifice that this would require would be to great. With sacrifice I am referring to limiting the amount of people that can use Bitcoin.

That means you are already compromising decentralisation. That you personally can run a node is irrelevant, the problem is that many people can no longer run one and you cannot prove this to be false because it isn't.

XT's solution is to further compromise the network by introducing throttling in a desperate attempt to pump their numbers: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3q5r6b/we_added_bandwidthlimiting_in_xt_testers_wanted/cwc8vp8

It is ridiculous to maintain that everybody should be able to continue running a full node, surely there should be a lower bound to this requirement. For instance we should not downscale the network so that people with dial up connection can run full nodes. Of course there will always be people that will no longer be able to run full nodes and in the same sense there will always be new people running full nodes again.

In regards to the new feature just added to XT, I would think it is rather useful since surely it is better to throttle a full node as opposed to just shutting it down if you are in a location where there is limited bandwidth.