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Fine then; go ahead move over to an alt for your latte purchases. I'll do mine on a sidechain and enjoy the solidity of real Bitcoin backing it without destroying the solution.

Bloating Bitcoin right into the waiting arms of corp/gov so you can have some nebulous benefit of having a record of your piss-ant transaction recorded in every copy of the blockchain and in-perpetuity is beyond retarded.

"My transaction is more important than your transaction"

Soon to be on a bumper sticker in front of you.

Good! I pay roughly a $10-ish transaction fee when I do a real Bitcoin transaction. If I am sucking hind teat that means that other user's are compelled to pay more and it means that as a core solution Bitcoin is in a sweet-spot where it is not profitable enough to justify giant datacenters but is interesting enough to keep small and medium sized players around the world providing infrastructure support.

In day-to-day use, I expect to use sidechains and make infrequent and periodic native Bitcoin transactions for the sole purpose of balancing risk. I can easily afford to pay $10 once in a while to perform such operations. In fact, it's a steal for a genuinely robust solution!

You do realize that even if you pay a ten dollar transaction fee, or lets say hypothetically even a thousand dollar transaction fee. Then even if everyone pays their thousand dollar transaction fee and the network is for example overloaded by a factor of two then half of those transactions will still not be confirmed even if you have payed your thousand dollar transaction fee. Over the long run you will have to out compete banks and payment processors in order to transact on the bitcoin blockchain directly, for most people this would be impossible, effectively turning Bitcoin into a settlement layer for banks payment processors and other large institutions. At that point what would even be the point of running a full node for the banks if we can not even transact on the Bitcoin blockchain our selves.

Over the long run you won't be transacting directly on the Bitcoin blockchain Wink

The point is to check your balance without dialing your intention to the NSA as well a having the option to fully validate the more important transactions you participate in.

If the blocksize is not increased, then we will not be transacting over the Bitcoin blockchain directly over the long term, you are correct in saying this. This is why the blocksize should be increased. This is why the blocksize will be increased, incentives are aligning.

The block size is not to be determined by the demand for transactions, which is infinite, but by the costs of the option to run a full node.

I disagree, I think that the blocksize should be determined by the technological limitations in terms of not compromising the principles of decentralization and financial freedom. Which are metrics which can not be measured by only considering a single variable like the cost of running a full node, since there are many variables and factors at work which can influence and effect the different possible outcomes to this question.

Another worthless post full of meaningless verbiage

XD Veritas, so you don't care if for make a full node there will be a budget of 100,000$ only in eletricity? I agree with brg444 in this case because all what you just wrote not only is meaningless but even stupid

I do not go around calling people stupid if you have not noticed, though you saying that a node would cost that much to run just in electricity would certainly qualify. Such extremist rhetoric is not helpful, eight megabyte blocks would still allow most people in the developed world to run full nodes. It certainly would not cost $100,000 as you claim it would.