Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 16, 2015, 08:19:43 AM

Quote from: Betcoin.AG on October 14, 2015, 02:56:10 PM

Quote from: hopenotlate on October 14, 2015, 08:27:38 AM

Quote from: Betcoin.AG on October 13, 2015, 09:33:05 PM

For clarity, players receive VIP points when you use your bitcoin to buy into a satellite tournament based on the fees you pay. You do not receive VIP points on the tournament that you are entered into once you win the seat.

...and, by the way, it is what happens in every FIAT based pokerroom.

So hope noone will complain about it.

The whole iPoker network just to name another one.

Btw Stars and iPoker network are the first two in poker industry for number of players

Thank you for your feedback hopenotlate. As always, much appreciated. We will continue to provide an extremely competitive and fun VIP program with more coming to it in the near future. Than you.

Quote from: ftwbtc1 on October 14, 2015, 08:48:35 PM

ACR, Stars to name two. It only makes logical sense considering you are not paying the full fee to get into the tournament that you have satellited into. I was wondering why Betcoin even posted this because I didn't see anyone ever mention this in the thread and it would seem common sense. What are your complaints about this twitchyseal?

Why are you guys making these false statements to defend Betcoin?

ACR and Stars (as well ass 888, WSOP.com, Partypoker, FullTilt etc ) pay their rakeback or VIP rewards (whatever you want to call it) based on the the entry fee that they collect. I actually contacted ACR support to verify recently just to make sure this was a Betcoin only problem - I've played between 500 and 3000 mtts on each of the other sites I listed.

In order to satellite into a $500 tournament, you have to win a $540 ticket. Of course you're going to be credited with paying the $40 fee when you enter.

The only two real differences between a satellite and a regular mtt is -

1 - The payout structure
2- The the prizes are used to enter a bigger tournament

The reason they posted that is because I made a big deal about them not making it public knowledge. I believe the reason they aren't paying out on tournaments when auto registered through a satty is a technical one and has to do with their systems not reporting the registration process the same as when a player buys in with "cash".

They have simply been working out the difference in what was owed in status and chips one on one - only with the players who complained multiple times without giving up.

To anyone who isn't sure who to believe here. Please, get the opinion of an experienced online player that grinds sattys hard

Quote from: hopenotlate on October 14, 2015, 08:27:38 AM

The whole iPoker network just to name another one.

Btw Stars and iPoker network are the first two in poker industry for number of players

Well I don't know first hand iPokers policy on mtt rakeback. But I do know that 888 and bodog both have more players than iPoker so I'm pretty sure you are just making this shit up.

Hope you each got some nice little gifts from betcoin for the "feedback" anyway.

You first accused me of receiving little gifts from Betcoin for posting "positive feedback" about them and them it comes out, by your own admission, you are the one who received a gift for a comment here

Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 16, 2015, 08:19:43 AM

But first here's some proof that Betcoin pays players to defend them on this forum.

(Maybe this is cool here, I don't know. But it seems kinda scummy to me and I think at the very least everyone should know that it's happening.)

I am the one who received the bonus here after making this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1136935.msg11992785#msg11992785

The next day I received this email and 20 mbtc in my account.

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Betcoin.ag Support <support@betcoin.ag>
Jul 29

to support
Hello,

As Betcoin becomes more popular, there will be more people trolling, attacking, etc., our goal is to provide the best place for all of you. We will never do our players wrong, ever. Sometimes, we will need responses in forums and we appreciate that.

We want to thank you for your bitcointalk response to the "scam" accusation which was just ludicrous. We are very appreciative of your selfless action in doing this and have added a small bonus to your account.

Sincerely,

Thomas

Betcoin

Also, I have some more evidence of Betcoin being aware of cheating, and choosing to do nothing until the cheaters attempt to withdraw:

I don't think they were aware at the time, but when staff likes another staff members post - it's made public for anyone to see in their profile.

This screen shot also may or may not prove that our passwords are not encrypted.

I posted this ss in Betcoin Chat just now, here are some of supports responses (basically encouraging everyone to troll me):

Betcoin Andrew: 81! That's insane.
Betcoin Andrew: Thanks Post, we are all trying to figure out OHYEAH
Betcoin Andrew: We just can't quite understand what is going on with him? Can someone help explain?
Betcoin Andrew: WE were thinking about having a bonus where the person who logs the most time, logged in and active would win, but OHYEAH would win that daily.

Entire Chat history can be found here : https://www.betcoin.ag/chat/log

Betcoin, you can troll me all day everyday - It may work in the the betcoin chat, but eventually someone will read this that you actually respect and ask you for a response.

I could have a wrong opinion (and admitted it some posts later I was wrong about iPoker not being the second poker operator but the fourth) but accusing to post for money was undeserved.

Next time before throwing mud to someone else have a look at the mirror.