Quote from: GriffinHeart on November 16, 2015, 02:47:51 PM

I agree with your most of your stated points, but I have a few things to bring up.
2) Public opinion. "Lack of a PR team to improve bitcoin's public relations" This aforementioned point is rightly impossible, bitcoin is not limited to a singular group of people or a single business, things that require a PR team. Bitcoin, as advertised pretty much everywhere is a decentralized currency. Though I am interested, I'd rather say that the community itself has to debunk the rumors put forth by the media that are outright lies or not entirely truthful.

Yes I`m aware of that, but many small make one big right?

Sure not 1 group can assume representative role over bitcoin, nor it can assume responsibility over it.

However multiple teams could do that. There can be competition between them, etc..

But the common goal is to shed positive light on bitcoin.

Now there are already bitcoin companies that do charity, but we need specific non-profit organizations to do only that for example.

So a PR specialist organizations /teams is needed.

I will correct that and put plural form, so that people should not misunderstand my post, we dont want bitcoin rulers, but we want bitcoin organizers.

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6) Global econonmy. Well, okay. Bitcoin does need a network in which to effectively use it in selling and purchasing items, possibly an amazon that accepts bitcoin along with normal currencies. That would be infitinitely benificial to the whole bitcoin system. Alas, this is too far away, as you said, we need a means of education for everyone.

I was referring there to a trigger event. For example a mass bail-in could make citizens upset about banks and turn to bitcoin for haven.

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Leadership. LEADERSHIP? The whole point of bitcoins is to have no leader. Idols endorsing bitcoin possibly will help in the whole advertising sector that is required for integration into mainstream society.

But leadership not in the ruler sense, but in the social organizer sense. A philosopher can be a leader too and it doesnt have to use the sword.

Leaders are ok, violence and coercion is not.

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9) Capital expansion. The current system is stable enough, of course there are defaults and scams, but members lending have a vigiliant eye for that kind of stuff and defaulting will always happen, in every lending sector it does.

Not all lenders have vigilancy, if a random guys just wants to earn an interest like if it were a bank account, he should be able to do it more easier than looking out for every scammer.

Its hard for borrowers too, because scammers make legit borrowers look untrustworthy. So there needs to be some filter/mechanism to protect both.

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10) Gender relations. I agree with little you say in this, but along with a medium to purchase these things it will be easier for women to get cosmetics and the like. In whole it is the women mentioned choice and responsiblility to exercise bitcoin to their heart's content.

Might want to get some women magazines, or cosmetics company to accept bitcoin, that could send bitcoin demand to the roof.

Quote from: DooMAD on November 16, 2015, 02:55:48 PM

When I was first getting started with Bitcoin, I didn't find the bitcoin.org website particularly helpful either. Once I was up to speed, I tried cobbling together my own version, but it's probably a little too long-winded because there's so much to cover. I'm always trying to think of ways to improve it, but it seems like there's no easy one-size-fits-all solution. Everyone absorbs information in different ways, so some might find one site easier to comprehend than another. The other issue is that many established people in the community have vastly differing views on what exactly Bitcoin is, so getting everyone to agree on exactly what we should be teaching to the new starters could be difficult. As an example, I deliberately left out web-wallet services because I think we should be teaching users the importance of looking after their own wallets and not relying on websites that may become compromised.

Yup i also think bitcoin.org needs a better design and more information on it. The theme and layout is familiar to all crypto people, but for a person who never knew crypto before it will be very alien.

My first motivation to join BTC was to earn money, and I could not find any useful info there. If it wasnt for my strong motivation, i would have quit bitcoin after 1 month. (And I think many people do this).

To preserve people and keep the interested, we need more education and usefulness added to it.

Quote from: sdmathis on November 16, 2015, 02:56:06 PM

I agree with most of your ideas, but the biggest roadblock to implementing them is organization. Bitcoin is basically a grass roots currency, and as such, lacks organization and leadership. If organization and leadership were implemented, Bitcoin would lose much of its appeal. Kind of a catch-22.

But again, leadership =/= governance.

I know many libertarians dont like that. A poet or philosopher is also a leader, and doesnt have to use the sword to impose its will on others.

Quote from: Kprawn on November 16, 2015, 03:01:28 PM

I basically agree with most of what you saying, but point number 10 in my opinion, might be a bit strong. You have put a lot of time and effort into your post and we do appreciate

that, but the gender thing, is a bit over the top. I have posted many arguments and proof that women are using Bitcoin in other threads about that topic on the forum.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163902.60

Point number 3 - INCOME: Lack of earning bitcoin methods & bitcoin jobs carry my biggest support, and should shift to the number 1 position. We need more income sources for

people to earn Bitcoin online. Every second newbie on this forum, ask that question, when they join... "Where can I earn Bitcoin?"

Well done... Good post. Grin

Truth is always harsh. But really i dont buy into the gender equality crap, we know that men and women have totally different interests, and they both have different biological roles. Males are resource gatherers, and women are family organizers and children raisers. This is their biological role.

So if we want women in bitcoin, we need to impress them by making bitcoin available in things that interest them

Quote from: ETFbitcoin on November 16, 2015, 03:30:41 PM

I agree with most of your suggestion, but i have few different suggestion
2. Public Opinion. There are many big charity organization, stores & companies who accept bitcoin, but this won't help much because they don't really promote bitcoin, so i think we better ask them to promote bitcoin in their services.
4. Education. Solid e-book/normal book, or a more summarized site is good way for newbies to learn about bitcoin. But i think we should add tutorial about how to introduce bitcoin to other people, some bitcoiner still find difficulty when tell others about bitcoin.
9. Lending system. Lending bitcoin is still difficult even because bitcoin is decentralized. There are many ways for them to run away themselves & their bitcoiner. Only centralized lending system can solve this problem.

2) I`m talking about bitcoin-only charity. Something that can emphasize to the world that bitcoin can be used for charity and not just for crimes.
4) Good points
9) Let's not rush that thought, saying that only centralized systems can work is bad. I`m sure the free market will come up with solutions to preserve decentralization & safety too.