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Quote from: PrikiNo.1 on November 18, 2015, 01:27:39 PM

I will say: Why atheists don't know the difference between the religion and spirituality?

What is written in the ancient sacred text and what society want us to think is so different and so wrong! People like you (atheists) should blame the preachers, not the books! I know why you hate religion, because I hate it to, but the difference between religion and God is so different.

There is only one book in this world who is talking about the creation of the world like nature, animals and humans, creation of the nations and countries and creation of the relationships between you and your people around you... The Bible. The first and the oldest book that is ever written since the first humans first emerges. This book is not just verified bu our modern science, but also is the most researched book that ever exist.

Every person who read, understand and start to practice the Bible will know the difference between good, bad and relativity. If you think that Islam or Hinduism are other religion that they should exist, then look up in the Bible and see what will happen with this two groups of ''religion''.

The true christian will know the meaning of the word christian, the meaning of the name Christ and will deciphers the meaning of the Revelation (the last book of John in the New Testament). Wink

And, yet, if there happened to be nothing wrong with a particular religion, would religion be needed to tell others about God, Jesus and salvation? Personally, I think that true and right religion would be needed to send out missionaries to preach the Word of God, the Bible.

There are other non-Biblical books and scrolls that were written before the Bible was compiled. There are only a few places in the Bible that may have been taken from writings going back to the time of the Creation - the first two chapters in Genesis.

The only complete book of the Bible that is possibly older that the writings of Moses (the first 5 books of the Bible) is Job. The writings of Moses may contain the oldest writings, even though the vast majority of his stuff was written over 40 years in the mid 1500s BC.

In the spirit of providing a possible look, see http://www.bibleodyssey.org/tools/bible-basics/what-are-the-earliest-versions-and-translations-of-the-bible.aspx. The traditions of the Jews suggest that the best Old Testament (Tanakh) is the one we have today.

Yeah, your right! The preacher are those who should tech us about the word of God, but do they?

During my research I found that the preachers are those who change the way of how should people look at the Bible. Do you know that 90% people who go in to the church, they never heard about the Bible?

Let's talk about the Matrix now. What do you think, how the the people create this huge system for massive control of the people!? They have read the Bible and change some things in politic system so they can teach people that the true government is chosen by God!

Now about the documents and facts... If you really want to be sure that you holding the document and the fact in your hands, then you must compare them. What I mean is... The first, the oldest and original story of the Bible come from ancient Sumeria. The books of the Bible was found on 22 000 stone tablets who are according to new research are older then 14 000 b.c.e.

You can check that fact if you like!

If you are talking about 90% of Christian churches, you are wrong. However, there are many faulty preachers, and all people make mistakes at times, even preachers.

Are you under Matrix control when you talk about others controlling people? Do they control you? People who believe in God of the Bible live in peace, even though their controllers do not. Then the controllers die and will face judgment at the resurrection.

There is no documented history beyond about 4,500 to 5,000 years ago. Nobody knows about history beyond that. Carbon dating is not accurate and cannot be trusted. The only thing you are trusting when you believe things like 14,000 BC is the delusions of other people. So, you have faith in things that are suppositions. Why not believe the eye-witness reports of the Bible?

I check facts daily. I check the Bible where the facts exist.

You definitely didn't understand me... Okay, I will give some short review about one movie (The Matrix) and then I would love to read you words again:

- In the first part of the movie, the scene where Morpheus talk with Neo for the first time, the next scene is when someone is knocking on the door. When Neo open the door he will notice the White Rabbit tattoo on the girl's shoulder or the wormhole where he will enter after he swallow the red pill. The second detail is when Morpheus shows Neo what is The Matrix or what is The Material World, where you can see but you can't really feel that. The third detail is when he shows the name of the ship. Do you remember what was written before the name? It's written: MARK 3, No. 11 - Gospel of Mark, chapter 3, verse 11! - According to that verse in the Bible, Neo is a metaphor of Christ consciousness. The fourth detail is when Neo goes to the Oracle... She told him: Being The One is like your in love! Did he believe in that? The fifth detail, who is Trinity or should I ask what is behind the name? = The Holy Trinity; The Symbol of Love! Did they fall in love each other? The sixth detail is agent Smith. The superhuman robot, who want to enter in Zion and destroy the city. Seventh detail, the name of the city: Zion or as you can see in the Old Testament, Zion is the Holy Mountain or Holy City!

- In the second part, after a lot of fight in the movie, Neo finally enter in the building and meet the Architect of the Matrix. Do you remember what he told to Neo in that conversation..? That hi is the sixth version of The One who enter in this room, but unlike the others he is different, and you know why? Because he fell in love and he can fell that for the first time. That's why he save Trinity and Zion in the same time!

- In the third part, is the final battle! Agent Smith try to enter Zion and become like them, Enlightened! But Neo and Trinity sacrifice their lives to destroy The Humans/Machines World, end the war and restore the balance on earth!

Symbolism is a great and wonderful thing. The Bible is full of symbolism.

The Matrix and Yoga probably have lots of symbolism in them. But they don't have the one thing necessary for salvation.

Unlike Yoga and The Matrix, the Bible has direct information right along with the symbolism.

Enjoy The Matrix. Build some of your physical and mental prowess with Yoga. But go to the Bible for eternal life.

Mate, you are very interesting person...

You are talking and defending the Bible and that's good, because I am on your side about that opinion, but when someone try to give you expanded view of the things, you don't like to hear it!

Yoga is not related with any other religion, but what is trying to say is that every person if He believe, can do miracles. That's are the same words of Christ and He was the one who shows those miracles! Let me remind you of some verse on the New Testament: ''If you truly believe that this mountain can be moved, then you are able to do that!''

Try to see the background in these verse. He talking about quantum physics, but nobody was able to understand Him, that's why he speak in parabolas! Even Albert Einstein wasn't able to completely understand the theory of relativity and that's why he sad: When mankind understand the consciousness, it will be able to practice my theory! Wink