Quote from: MasterMined710 on November 20, 2015, 11:08:30 AM

Quote from: smoothie on November 20, 2015, 03:17:21 AM

~2 months (XMR "cripple mine" ~7% of the current supply + spend $250k in mining costs)

vs

1-2 days (DASH to instamine 33% of the total current Dash supply + ~$1000 in cloud mining etc for 2 days)

Roll Eyes

Yes Monero is such a "scam". Cheesy

well at least you admit the monero 7% cripplemine scam. DASH had a 10% instamine distribution bug but it turned out to be a feature.

to try and minimize the cripplemine by using "current coin supply" is scammy and dishonest considering the highly hype inflationary monero emission curve where half the coins have already been mined in less than a year and a half, now that's what i call a instamine.
if it wasn't for the DASH instamine bug then there would only be like 4 million DASH right now compared to the current 10 million plus monero instamine. Shocked

and monero was launched months after DASH!

OR HAI SCAMMER, you have been caught LYING AGAIN in the DASHTHREAD.

Quote from: othe on November 20, 2015, 11:21:13 AM

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Is this coin absolutely and fully anonymous ? which one is best ? Monero or Dash ? what are the advantages and disadvantages of each one ?

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As far as I can tell, DASH has less anonymity than Monero because DASH mixes in masternodes.

if nobody can deanonymize DASH what difference does it make? that's like entering a tank in a NASCAR race and thinking it's going to win because the tank is more resistant to crashes. the trade off is a non legacy compliant unscalable already bloated blockchain, the little extra anon (pre evolution) is not worth the huge trade off. plus the lack of any real anonymity has not hurt bitcoin's market-cap as of yet.

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As long as the mixing isn't decentralized at protocol level (as promised), this will be the case.

by that strict interpretation aren't all cryptocoins centralized?
if dash was centralized one person could deanonymize dash or push a button and shut it down, that's not the case.

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On the other hand, DASH offers way more than only anonymity and has at the moment a better exposure.
So I decided to invest in both and watch it play out for the moment.

the market agrees. i expect monero to keep getting pushed down until a year from now it will be lucky to be in the top 20.
if a solid zerocash implementation is released then it's lights out for monero/cryptonote. just ask fluffypony, he'll tell you that and he is fully expecting it happen at some point.

monero just has too many issues and is way to risky for me to invest in. i just picked up two new masternodes and did not even consider monero, ethereum looks pretty interesting though so i may diversify a bit into that.

Mastermined is spreading lies again with out of context screenshots, nice job, i hope the other dashers are proud to have someone like you, clearly shows what the dash community is about.
You think you are good at twisting words, but you are just a miserably little lying scumbag. Oh so great to even use a 241 day old discussion you started with spreading shit on reddit, you sir are a true internet hero and the more you speak the more shady looks all this dash stuff, so let´s speak a bit more here :-)

Here´s the full text, everyone can read it themselves here: https://m.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/301r4e/crypto_primitive_shorter_than_current_monero_ring/
"if a solid zerocash implementation is released then it's lights out for monero/cryptonote. just ask fluffypony, he'll tell you that and he is fully expecting it happen at some point. " - in fact he said the opposite.

Here are some more lies from your fellow community member the MasterMined710 Scammer.

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lastly, monero was launched about 3 months after DASH yet it already has almost twice the amount of coins mined. seems like a highly inflationary ongoing instamine that gives an unfair advantage to those early miners.

my conclusion, there has never been a coin with a perfect launch including bitcoin.

There's perfect, there's scam, and everything in between. Monero is a helluva lot closer to perfect than DASH/Darkcoin/Xcoin could every hope to be.

You can look on the block explorer and see the amount of coins emitted at any block. For instance, by block 20000 ( http://moneroblocks.eu/search/20000 ), mined on May 1st, the total number of emitted coins was about 350k or about 3.5% of the total coins that exist today. So, 3.5% of the coins that exist were mined during the period of the crippled miner when a few folks (such as DGA, who is not a member of the development team) were mining with optimized miners. Around May 1st the optimized miner was made public by NoodleDoodle and other members of the actual dev-team that took over the coin from TFT.

Compare that with DASH, where around 1/3 of the coins that exist today were mined in the first 48 hours or so, and I think it's pretty plain to see which coin had the more fair launch. (This is not to mention the fact that there was zero windows clients and a promise to relaunch made by the Xcoin developer, while hundreds of AWS and DO nodes mined away). 33% of available coins mined in 2 days, or 3% of available coins mined in a few weeks - I don't think it's much of a comparison.

(This is also not to mention the fact that DASH/Darkcoin/Xcoin switched to a quasi-PoS system after their botched launch, allowing large holders to just sit on their coins and grow them, which is obviously not the case for Monero, which is pure PoW, where owning a chunk of coin doesn't allow one to do anything but dump it on an exchange.)

Top post jwinterm. Facts, not FUD.

Thank you for digging this post up. Mastermined can now come back and try to spin things to death about the "scam" that has happened with Monero when clearly Dash is no saint and in fact likely is the equivalent of the devil's favorite demon coin with shady launches, broken PoW algorithm, rebranding to distance itself from its shady past, and the addition of quasi-PoS system etc..

Why you all compare monero to dash? This tread is about monero scam.

Because this thread is done by the dashtarded scam army who have exposed multiple times of scamming and lying here, for example:

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Vitalik just posted in /r/ethereum --

Guess who's now in the firing line now for being low tech' Cheesy

(Thats what you get for calling Monero a 'real premine sacm').

Never mind. It's all in a good cause (we hope). Mudpies on stun and chickenwire at the ready.

Hey fucktard, why don´t you show the world the whole discussion? Because it doesn´t fit your fucktarded dash scam propaganda?

Or what about this one?

Dashtards, even too stupid to lie; unbelieveable....

Eat shit scumbags.

Quote from: MasterMined710 on November 20, 2015, 11:14:37 AM

Quote from: othe on November 20, 2015, 09:18:27 AM

7) There is no centralized point of failure, unlike in DASH.

and what is the centralized point of failure in DASH?
surly you are not talking about the decentralized masternode network.

Evan Duffield. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor