Quote from: phoenix1 on November 21, 2015, 04:54:35 PM

So, you are both saying that if you found yourself in a situation where someone was firing a machine gun close to you or at you, you would get your phone out and start taking pictures

Why not just jump up, ask the gunman to turn around so you can get a better angle.
Better still, get a tin of red paint out and draw a target on yourself

Good luck with that as a survival strategy Roll Eyes

. Certainly not at the top of my list on ...

Oh you try so hard and fail even harder. Not all of those hundreds of people were directly in front of the shooters. Just probabilistically at least some of the people should have been able to capture something.

Quote from: phoenix1 on November 21, 2015, 04:54:35 PM

The evidence you have provided so far, Hyena, is nonsense. The video of the Cafe 'bombing' is actually the scene of a shooting, not a bombing as the narrator keep saying. Check your sources, and check what they are saying as you told us to do. That guy is wrong on soooo many levels its embarrassing, and you are regurgitating it without any analysis. The fact that it was a shooting and not a bombing DESTROYS this guy's whole narrative and his credibility. His analysis is even weaker than yours, and you take it at face value. Tragic.
You are not acting as a devil's advocate at all, your are just posting factually incorrect nonsense that fits your view, and that you actually believe.

And you are just throwing things out, stating shit that fits your agenda while being overly emotional about it. I could as well as start insulting your mama in a response. Grin

Quote from: phoenix1 on November 21, 2015, 04:54:35 PM

Now you are going with 'some were real, some were staged' - based on what? Where is you evidence to support this? So far you have provided nothing of value since starting this topic. Just utter shite that was easy to disprove.
Give us something to make us believe your latest assertion, and do yourself a favour, fact-check it first this time. Not some regurgitated crap from the looney fringe please - do some work on it yourself first.
And don't give us any more of this crap that you are simply trying to stimulate discussion.

I just gave you the evidence. Your answer of "this is not evidence" is the lamest answer one could give. You're like a dumb farmer who sees a picture of a giraffe and says "such an animal does not exist".

Quote from: phoenix1 on November 21, 2015, 04:54:35 PM

You BELIEVE what you are posting, that is clear to see, and your partial back-downs look a very weak attempt to look half way reasonable and soothe your ego in the face of continued fail.

You don't know shit about my beliefs. You assume that what I post is what I believe. Where did you get the permission to make such assumptions? Your mama told you it was OK?

And what is it with your rage about me changing my opinion as the topic goes on? Are you mad that I don't stupidly defend some initial stance that has clearly some holes in it? Well guess what, that's what an effective discussion is supposed to achieve --- people changing their opinions in accordance to the new knowledge gained from other participants. And then you go on to include my ego in this. Would an egoistic person start a fight he knows he cannot win? This discussion was supposed to educate people on the both sides of the argument. What you are doing is turning it into a demeaning rant against ... me --- I suppose ... which sort of reveals your level of intelligence. I am slowly getting curious who put that carrot in your ass. It has to be huge telling by the tone of your messages. It could even have a handle. I think you should have it checked by a doctor Grin

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