Quote from: 1aguar on November 23, 2015, 06:51:56 PM

Quote from: BADecker on November 23, 2015, 06:23:59 PM

No matter who left other books out of the Bible, it was because those books were flawed with regard to the uniform knowledge that the Bible contains - the teaching of God that is in the Bible. This is available for anyone to examine.

This is more post-hoc reasoning. Your argument is like so:
These books are in the Bible because they are the true teaching of God.
Thus, whoever left out those other books must have done so because they are not as true.

You do not examine the possibility that the true cause of those books being in the Bible is that the Church of Rome wanted them in there. Satan is not my buddy because I RECOGNIZE that these books are promoted by the adversary. Do you?

Quote from: BADecker on November 23, 2015, 06:23:59 PM

Thus, why play around with things not needed?

How would you know that some knowledge is not needed if you have not read it and dismiss it offhand?
You would have to be respecting someone else's OPINION in not reading knowledge.
So you are just accepting the Church of Rome's authority for what should go in the Bible, you have done no independent thinking or study to determine that something is not needed because it does not fit, you just assume that what you have in front of you is 100% true because the Church of Rome authorities never allowed you a look at any other material. No way can you come to a conclusion about a book by NOT READING IT.

Quote from: 1aguar on November 23, 2015, 05:06:33 PM

You would even mess up the teachings of salvation by making your stupid Phoenix Journals that teach works righteousness into the way of salvation.

If the Bible happened to be flawed a little, you want to go all the way into that which is false by getting rid of the truth of the Bible.

I am obligated to use reason. If the Bible is flawed, then it is NOT INERRANT. It is obviously tampered and totally incomplete with only 4 of 28 gospels, therefore it is flawed and NOT INERRANT. How could GOD terrorize a child??

You should start to doubt the claim that GOD RE-WROTE the Bible to make it perfect. Nothing of this world is perfect, BADecker.

There is no such thing as "Jesus salvation".

Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say that the way to goodness and life is "through me, Jesus". In fact, he says that "God's Kingdom is not here (i.e. within Jesus), and it is not there (i.e. somewhere else); GOD'S KINGDOM IS WITHIN YOU". So repentance and forgiveness must begin within self, for that is where God resides--within YOU! Furthermore, if you read the other gospels, you will get the message, but the Church authorities picked only a few gospels to mislead you. You probably already know that the biggest lies are 90% truth!

Well, the proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

The Bible and Christianity are acknowledged worldwide, even in may Islamic and other religious cultures. The Phoenix Journals can't seem to get off the ground.

Just because you won't acknowledge the words of John in the Bible, that show that Jesus expressly taught salvation through Himself - even though that teaching was often in parable form - doesn't mean those words aren't there.

Your religion. Jesus holds the choice open for you.